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If you're white, you're right : Comments

By Stephen Hagan, published 25/5/2006

Not a lot has changed over the last one hundred years: racism still persists in Australian society.

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Sorry I did not include the Chinese inventions ,I get so tired of "whitey bashing'by people who avail themselves of every convenience they can get their hands on then, through some poisonous kind of envy, abuse those who have provided that convenience.
I love the bit about African kings,Mugabe would be a shining example wouldn't he?
There is no doubt that western nations colonized various countries and treated the natives quite badly but it seems to me that when they withdrew, they left behind cities and hospitals,schools, universities etc that would never have been built without them. And post colonization, many of the inhabitants were treated worse by their own leaders.
So next time you get into your car, switch on the electricity,log on to your computer,remember who is responsible for the origin of them and if you have such a strong loathing of the whiteys, do not soil your hands with the things they have made.
Posted by mickijo, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 2:00:15 PM
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Mickijo, I thought you were just dazzled by the colour white but I realize you are also historically ignorant. Who cares about the skin colour of inventors and cultural innovators?

Why do you dredge up old furphies about pre-colonial and post-colonial culture? What are you trying to prove? Open your eyes and mind and you might appreciate the contribution of multiple heritages to the civilized world. You tell us that colonial powers brought amenities like cities and universities to their colonies. Next time you are on the internet look up ancient Universities. They are not a western legacy: universities established in China (Nanjing in 258 AD), India (Nandala 5th century), Turkey (Constantinople 9th century) and Egypt (Al-Azahar 998) predate the first European universities: Italy (Bologna 11th century), England (Oxford around 1160 and Cambridge 1209).

The Royal Library of Alexandria in Egypt, founded at the beginning of the 3rd century BC, was once the largest library in the world with over half a million hand-written papyrus scrolls. Scholars like Archimedes visited from around the world and spent time at the Temple of the Muses (the Musaion or Museum). He was interested not in the colour of Egyptian skin but the content of their minds.

And for every Mugabe you could cite a Stalin or a Hitler or even a Bush. Good and evil don't come in black and white - they are multi-coloured.
Posted by FrankGol, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 2:53:08 PM
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[Deleted for being completely off-topic - not even vaguely related.]
Posted by Sly, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 4:27:41 PM
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No im not aboriginal but i am a black man with a hint of filipino in me. but i think anyone that has felt the effects of Europeans brutal ways can know what the other race is feeling to an extent. No matter how much melanin is in their skin. Im sure a Native American can somewhat associate with what an Aztec thinks and feels as well as Afrikans and Aboriginals. I'm not saying that white people are dumb or that we could live without what they have done. I am thankful for the things that they have brought us up on. However before we get to mushy...lets bring out the facts. Im not a white person basher-amor vincit omnia. i just realize that our lighter counterparts have had a lot more time to come up with their inventions and doings than their darker skinned fellows. i mean we werent allowed to read or write for quite some time and we all know the native Americans were done unjustly in terms of education as well as a nation. Thats why their are so many organizations that are aimed at helping the colored(not just black) people because they were held back for so long while a white skin guaranteed them an undisputable education-if they wanted it.
Posted by THA_KONFEDERATION, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 8:56:03 PM
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Banjo,
No i'm not a magazine editor... in fact i'm a computer systems engineer doing systems engineering with some defence company. Sorry that i upset you but i don't engage in personal attacks - i discuss 'issues'. And yeah Costello said those things in those links i gave you. And yeah i'm a christian, proud one that is. Christ dined with 'pagans' tax collectors and hang around with prostitutes. What i'm saying that Christ from whose name 'CHRISTIAN' religin comes from was the man of tolerance and he wouldn't have a problem living side by side with Muslims in this country.
As for someone who talked about stupidity and values: what about gays and lesbians of this country. Apparently Christianity wouldn't think their 'values' are alright. So where are they going to be 'cast' and 'deported'?
Posted by Jigga, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 11:08:23 PM
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mickijo,
It's sad that you understand civilisation in terms of tall buildings and technology. Here is www.dictionary.com 's definition of 'civilisation':

.....the social process whereby societies achieve civilization [syn: civilization] 2: a particular society at a particular time and place; "early Mayan civilization" [syn: culture, civilization] 3: a society in an advanced state of social development (e.g., with complex legal and political and religious organizations); "the people slowly progressed from barbarism to civilization" [syn: civilization] 4: the quality of excellence in thought and manners and taste; "a man of intellectual refinement"; "he is remembered for his generosity and civilization" [syn: refinement, civilization]

For your own info, when a white man went to Africa, they already had social structures intact. The people had traditional and customary courts to try criminals; they had Kings; they had democratic structures; they song songs of praise to their heroes; they loved each other and lived in harmoney; they could hunt animals and collected wild fruits to feed themselves; kids converged around the fire to learn from elders; they had initiation ceremonies; they didn't have money but they exchanged good for goods; they had a moon calender; they grazed their cattles; they treated diseases using herbal medicine; ABOVE ALL THEY WERE A HAPPY PEOPLE! All this is 'civilisation'.
Then came a white man who set up police structures and schools and built buildings and all of a sudden a brother would never come to a brother's funeral because he was busy going to work for the high commissioner. Kings and Chiefs were manipulated. In exchange of guns, diamonds and gold were taken out of Africa to build the Europe of today. Slaves were taken out to build America we have today. After colonisation, the money that Europe realised from the gold and diamond of Africa was 'lent' back to Africa in debt so they can 'fight' another brother. Please don't talk about things you don't know very well. Despite all the money and buildings my observation after living in the west for SO long is that people here aren't still happy after all.

PEACE!
Jigga
Posted by Jigga, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 11:19:02 PM
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