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If you're white, you're right : Comments
By Stephen Hagan, published 25/5/2006Not a lot has changed over the last one hundred years: racism still persists in Australian society.
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Posted by Horus, Friday, 2 June 2006 9:13:51 PM
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Banjo,
I don’t know what sort of a browser you are using but I think I’ll leave this issue to the members on this page for them to determine whether Costello made comments about deporting Australian citizens who don’t adopt Australian values. Here is an extract of what he said in the video links I gave you earlier: “…. They should be refused citizenship if they apply for it…. where they have it, they should be stripped of it….” Here we go again: · http://ninemsn.video.msn.com/v/en-au/v.htm?g=2de8468e-351c-4ff4-9919-f2ff8b8436b6&f=&fg=copy · http://ninemsn.video.msn.com/v/en-au/v.htm?g=b5d1ac33-5256-4233-bf5d-002b08dadf69&f=&fg=copy · http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200602/s1577530.htm As per whether I plagiarized my own piece of writing or whether I’m an editor, the answer is yes it’s my own writing and no I’m not an editor, again. The website/magazine editor that I don’t even know POSTED the article but I, Muyoyeta Simasiku, wrote it. I sent that article in e-mail to Peter Costello himself and some discrimination organizations and I have no idea how it ended up on that website but I found it when I Googled my name. Obviously you seem to be so fascinated by the quality of my writing and how articulate it is that you can’t believe a nobody dude like me can write to such high levels… well you better believe! You can Google my name and see some of my writings. Mickijo, It’s increasing becoming difficult to ‘debate’ with you because you seem to be discussing many issues and you change every time someone gives a reasonable response to your views. To answer you I’m here to try and get back the Gold and Diamond that was stolen from my fore-fathers and to try and convince people like you that I’m just as capable a human being as you and so you should quit your racism behaviour. By the way Frankgol and Konfederation have been spitting some real stuff here and still don’t get it why you guys can’t get it! Posted by Jigga, Saturday, 3 June 2006 12:38:22 AM
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Jigga,
There is nothing wrong with my browser, or my reccollection. You are now saying that the Treasurers comments relating to refusing citizenship to some, and stripping citizenship from some, who have bad characteristics and give false oaths of allegence, is advocating the deportation of Australian citizens. There is no way saying the first is advocating the second and I am sure you know that. The word deport means 'To remove forcibly from a country'. But you already know that. You should apologise for the deliberate misrepresentation of the Treasurers comments. Your writings do not facinate me, they disgust me. No, I will not google up your other writings. I have seen more than enough and I am glad you are not a citizen. Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 3 June 2006 2:16:41 PM
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Banjo,
I don’t know how clever or smart you are. So you can’t see a direct relationship between stripping someone’s citizenship and deportation huh? For you to say he only said that he would cancel citizenship of Australians “who have bad characteristics and give false oaths of allegiance” but didn’t say abything deporting them is very strange on your part. What kind of thinking is this? So tell me what happens to someone whose citizenship or residence is cancelled by a government of a country – may be they are killed, or are they deported? You answer that. Man we don’t just argue to ‘win’ at all costs; rather we debate issues constructively so we can educate each other. To help you out, go to this link below and hold your ‘Ctrl’ and ‘F” keyboard buttons and then type ‘DEPORT’ in the dialog window that pops up and keep clicking on ‘Find’ until you find a sentence that has ‘Costello’ and ‘deportation’ in it, OK: http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/costello-ruse-echoes-white-australia-policy/2006/03/02/1141191789281.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1 At least we are getting there. For the first time I’m happy that you have stopped insinuating that I’m an editor of a magazine or that I plagiarised my own work. See you have accused me of many derogatory things that you haven’t even apologised. You keep ‘forcing’ me to apologise to Costello when he himself, a recipient of my article hasn’t asked me to. But that’s OK because it appears that’s your style. As to whether you won’t Google my writings or whether you are happy I’m not an Australian citizen, that’s cool because it doesn’t bother me at all and I don’t want to be an Australian citizen either. I’m here purely on professional grounds and I miss my home everyday and look forward to going back to my happy people soon! Posted by Jigga, Saturday, 3 June 2006 3:07:45 PM
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As a schoolboy, I was indoctrinated with the concept that “all men are equal.” But this is a concept I no longer believe in.
My first reassessment of this concept came in my teens, when I realized that this ideal was a cornerstone of Communist ideology. The commos believed that the concept of class was an illusion. To their way of thinking, a Cheapside flower girl was no different to a Piccadilly princess, other than their different manner of speaking and their differences in clothing. I think today, most people would concede that the proportion of intelligent people living in Mosman is much higher than the proportion of intelligent people living in Macquarie Fields, or Moe. So, if most people taday concede that the concept that intelligence is not shared equally within classes, then why is it a sin to conclude that intelligence is not shared equally between races, or other breeds of men? Societies run by black people are invariably social disasters. It has been common to explain this phenomenon by blaming the whites, but I would point out the racism in that idea. The bottom line is, that wherever black people congregate there are serious, often intractable social problems. Which, of course, the whites end up having the honour of solving. This usually entails throwing lots of money at black people. Pick up the newspaper, and white soldiers everywhere are keeping the locals from mass murdering themselves. And now newspapers are demanding Australian soldiers restore order in aboriginal communities. We in Australia have enough trouble with our own aboriginal people without importing more welfare and crime prone black people into this country. Scientific research in this country is now almost non existent now that the CSIRO have effectively declared bankruptcy. We as a nation can no longer afford to import social problems in the name of a failed humanitarian ideology. Posted by redneck, Sunday, 4 June 2006 7:05:22 AM
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Redneck,
It's hard for you to see realities with your independent mind because you already point out from the start that you don't believe in the idea of "all men are equal". You forgot to mention the causes of social problems existing in black communities - it's "UNequality" among humans that contribute to those problems. Sad you even believe that rich people living in Mosman are 'better humans', 'more inteligent' than those in Macquarie field. To you material acquisition defines "superiority", or intelligence. May be a black rich woman like Oprah Winfield is more 'superior' and 'more intelligent' than most white women, probably all Australian white women? Is she exceptional or 'white' inside? I'm trying to explain this the best way. But even using your own analogy of Mosmon and Macquarie field, the fact you point whites living in the former are 'smarter' or 'better humans' than those whites living in the later, won't you agree then that intelligence could be an individual issue rather than a racial issue - I mean the fact that even among whites there are more intelligent people than the others. I'm black and I beat squarely a lot of my white friends in my university subjects; am I white or an exceptional? Talking about how inequality can be a consequence of many issues, why is it that a kid born in Macquarie field would find it very difficult to live in Mosman no matter how they tried and yet a kid born in Mosman will most likely continue living there when they grew up? Yes helping in war-torn countries is just a human responsibility after all whites contributed to those wars. And don't be that naive you - it's not true that its only blacks who are fighting in the world. Don't look at the present misfortunes to justify your own redneck ideologies. Look at history. Look at the World Wars; look at former Yugoslavia, Kosovo, your own Hitler; etc or were these people black inside? I suggest you visit your local library, better still enrol in a history class at your local school! Posted by Jigga, Sunday, 4 June 2006 10:53:38 AM
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If someone who is 50% white & 50% black is treated badly.
Which race suffers the injustice?
What about someone who is 80% white & 20% black.
Which side can legitimately claim it has suffered the abuse?