Suebdootwo,
Does your dictionary defines 'racist' as a descriptive adjective identifying socially objectionable behaviours toward a race identified by their genetic similarities or a group identified by skin colour?

1. Do people of certain genetic similarities excell in some area of human behaviour or expertise? eg survival in the Australian desert, or some Africa tribes as long distance runners, or some make better leaders of human resourses.
2. Do some nationalities identify by their outward expression of emotions in loud raucus behaviour?
3. Do some with genetic similarities frequently go walkabout?

There are traits of character or behaviour bred or developed in family environments that have advantages or disadvantages in human relationships. People from starving families have no concept of manners as we expect in educated societies. This is both character and ability training. To be disgusted by such animal behaviours we can accept that we have a superior culture or race. I think we can feel some pride or superiority of character in our culture.

I talked to a Doctor yesterday who served in Timor during the setting up of its nationhood and he made the comment that most of these people are not much more advanced than animals, they have little community pride or conscience. Is he racist?

The true racist is one who would exclude or cause damage or injury or injustice to persons identified by skin colour, genetic similarities, or nationality of birth.

Though not to be racist we would not treat differently persons of a different philisophy, or world view, religion in a community setting. However maintaining the purity of those idiologies we would exclude persons from holding office within those organisations. If we are breeding poodles we would not use a bitzer as the father.

Quote, "The belief that race accounts for DIFFERENCES in human CHARACTER or ABILITY. And that a race or more SUPERIOR to others."

Jigga,
Could I suggest that you actually check on what a person said BEFORE you start mouthing off about them.

From my recollection, Peter Costello said nothing about deporting anyone let alone Australian citizens.

You should not have any trouble in finding his speech, or does that not matter to you? If you have the high morals as you imply you will no doubt apologise.

No, I don't vote Liberal.

Suebdootwo,
Yes that's how I describe racists: 'They are a bunch of insecure losers,..... etc'. I'm afraid I don't have any 'better' words to use to describe them that would please you. If I were racist then I would fit my own description and if you were one yourself then you very much fit my description. You are at liberty to use your own description of a racist. But the last debate I would engage in is somebody to school me on the meaning of racist. My short description of a racist is someone who descrimnates the other based on race PERIOD(.) We all know what racists are like and what damage they are capable of doing to society. Please note that my description above doesn't include all people but only limited to racists themselves in whatever form and colour they come. And yes I believe it's the 'superioty' complex thing that is causing all this racism scourge. As for my reference to the 'blacks hating on fellow blacks' I was merely responding to the article by Stephen which is the centre of this discussion. And I was agreeing with him because I have seen these things with my own eyes. You seem to have lost track of the whole discussion. Please go back and read Steve's article and come back and post your opinion of what you think about it.

PEACE AND ONE LOVE!

This is what Peter Costello said in his address to the Sydney Institute on 23 February 2006 (http://www.treasurer.gov.au/tsr/content/speeches/2006/004.asp) :

"Before entering a mosque visitors are asked to take off their shoes. This is a sign of respect. If you have a strong objection to walking in your socks don't enter the mosque. Before becoming an Australian you will be asked to subscribe to certain values. If you have strong objections to those values don't come to Australia.

"We need to be very clear on these issues. There are some beliefs, some values, so core to the nature of our society that those who refuse to accept them refuse to accept the nature of our society.

"If someone cannot honestly make the citizenship pledge, they cannot honestly take out citizenship. If they have taken it out already they should not be able to keep it where they have citizenship in some other country."

The Treasurer was dog-whistling with his mosque analogy. (We all know the sort of person who should be deported, don't we?) But, always the shrewdy, he undertood that in practical terms you can only deport from Australia people who are not yet Australian citizens or people who hold dual citizenship. What country would accept our deportees who only hold Australian citizenship?

Well said Frank !

Golly Jigga .. you said

["Just when you think intolerance and racism are vices associated with only an insecure selected few, you are taken aback by the caustic remarks of a very senior federal government official.]

I see...its racist to get rid of the RACIST individuals who come here and wish to impose THEIR racial/cultural ideas on us....but its not CULTURAL RACISM to come here and expect us to adapt to OUTSIDERS ways ?

Well, now that I understand both sides of the coin, can you tell me what this has at all to do with Christianity and Peter Costello's being one ?

I suggest that Peter C is BEING 'Christian' by suggesting those who don't wish to adopt our values should be stipped of citizenship and deported. Its a great idea. Romans 13 states that the Emperor (Christian or non) holds the SWORD as a deterrent to the evildoer.

To me, one of the greatest evils is to steal the cultural identity of a group you begin to dwell amongst. (and yes, this DOES apply to the white intrusion into indigenous Australia) What arrogance it is to come to Australia and expect to be treated specially in accordance with YOUR culture which may be in direct conflict with ours...

And you call this iNTOLERANT ? Well I call coming to Australia and not being willing to tolerate OUR ways is the pot calling the kettle black. Only those with a vested interest in diluting/destroying our culture whine and moan about 'Intolerance' on our part.

Will we tolerate cultural genocide against us ? Not in a million years ! The indigenous should have slaughtered every foreigner who came here. They didn't..and look at the result for them.

Do you think this lesson is lost on us ? Fortunately, we can use 'policy' rather than weapons in looking after ourselves.

@Jigga

Can't you see Australia's like 'Animal Farm'some aren't as equal as others?Theres only 2 kinds of true Australians,don't be fooled by lips.
If you don't fit into Click 1 or click 2 or both, then you're foreign ,citizenship or not.Its just apart of Australian society.Why worry about that? Just as long as people are not being violent towards you. People who are insecure &cowardly always need to be apart of the crowd :)