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If you're white, you're right : Comments

By Stephen Hagan, published 25/5/2006

Not a lot has changed over the last one hundred years: racism still persists in Australian society.

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FranGol says:
"Of course you are entitled to your opinion; but some logical thought and reasoned argument using relevant facts would actually make for a better opinion. It also helps to engage with people whose opinions are different from your own. Have you ever talked to your Indigenous neighbours? I work professionally with a number of Indigenous Australians - and socialise with several - and each one I find stimulating, caring and compassionate about this country. I also know some white trash but I do not come to any general conclusions about white people based on what I see them do."

Agreed. Very wise. However I am not sure I agree with your last sentence.
In my neighbourhood we are regarded as "white trash". I have been told by the local Catholic community that they hate us and want us to "piss off". I drive an old car, voice opinions that they don't like, have family who have waste-length purple hair (male - into Glam metal) and "mowhawks" (female-old-school punk, am regarded as lefty, don't go to church and don't fit the mold of that nice obedient "Christian". Questioning CC decisions and behaviour is paramount to questioning God's word - not their opinions. Cultural supremacists at their worst. However, these people are not representative of all Catholics.

I also have Indigenous neighbours next door. They are quiet folk. We've had a cuppa tea and many a chat. One of them is involved in cultural heritage of their people. They are, like us, a fair bit different to the rest of the neighbourhood in some aspects. If Australian's used them to draw general conclusions about Indigenous folk and non-whites, then maybe the cultural supremacists and racists would be seen as illogical fools.

My other next door neighbours are retirees and Catholics. If that family (their kid's and grandkids visit often), with their non-judgemental and always helpful and kind, without being patronising, ways, were representative of Catholics then the only conclusion possible would be that true Catholics truly get the gist of what it is to be Christian.
Posted by rancitas, Friday, 26 May 2006 10:23:41 AM
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Stephen Hagen's article is fair reporting of his life story.
He points out, rightly, Australia's historic obsession with white supremacy, and its intolerance of beings who are different to "the norm".
We showed it with the White Australia Policy, when we stopped Chinese entry.
We typified that attitude in Arthur Caldwell's statement:"Two Wongs don't make a white".

Shock...horror! Australia has actually discovered that as well as fuzzy wuzzies being OK at Kokoda, some Asians actually have skills that Aussies do not.
We can go down to the Chinks for a feed, but stay right away from them boongs!

With our racist intolerance, why did we go to war with Hitler?
He put racial differences into perspective; Aryan purity reigns supreme.
Come on Aussie, come on (except youse blacks).
Posted by Ponder, Friday, 26 May 2006 10:43:31 AM
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@Jigga
" It's true fellow black people can even more racist to their fellow black brothers and sisters once they have an 'association' with white. I'm thinking because they feel insecure and inferior, they tend to feel superior once they have established that 'connection' with whites".

I relate well with (blks)African-Americans,Afro-brits and Afro latinos,Black South Africans , because they tend to understand whats really going on in the world.When I speak about such things around whites ect ,they tend to think three things, you have something against other groups(envy,hate),you're a disfuntional minority,Or thats just the way those people act.I know some africans do such things, but some races take it to the extreme.

Many of these people hold whites to far higher standard than themselves or anyone else.So that makes more barriers not 1 or 2. These people are close enough to their so-call European superiors people like Japanese,Indians, Chinese,Arabs,Maoris ect are sometimes worst,but poverty other things covers it up.
Posted by Amel, Friday, 26 May 2006 4:34:20 PM
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Total White World Population percentage is 12 to 15%
Posted by Rainier, Friday, 26 May 2006 7:16:00 PM
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I posted these articles questioning racism tendencies in this country by politicians like Peter Costello and so called academics, aka Ass/Prof Drew Fraser... enjoy the read:

Who is an Australian Citizen?
[Link: http://opus.org.au/node/129?PHPSESSID=c80bbe2013f2ac96d2878019a87799fb ]

Peter Costello's comments about deporting Australian citizens who don't adopt 'Australian values' shocked many, including myself, especially because the comments are coming from someone who claims to be a Christian. Just when you think intolerance and racism are vices associated with only an insecure selected few, you are taken aback by the caustic remarks of a very senior federal government official.

The federal treasurer's comments just confirmed what I have long suspected: that there are Australians who regard themselves as being 'more Australians' than others. You can be an Australian citizen by birth or have become a legal citizen through a citizenship ceremony but if you don't have blonde hair, blue eyes and beach burnt white skin (probably with a little protruding tummy), you will always be regarded as a 2nd, 3rd or 4th class citizen who is 'less Australian' than 'them'. But just how can an Australian citizen 'deport' another Australian citizen – to where? How can this be possible? Is being an Australian citizen defined by your beliefs? If you are a Muslim who believes in 'Sharia Law', then you aren't an Australian citizen. Ok fine! What if you are a lesbian, gay, non-Christian and don't drink and don't go to the beach? Are you an Aussie citizen then?

What are 'Australian values' anyway?

Is Costello being honest by trying to tell us that all Australians believe in the same values? Can honourable Peter Costello tell us that the homosexual next door believes in the same 'Christian values' that he believes in?

Is Costello trying to tell Muslims to start being homosexuals; go to the pub and drink beer and start swearing in front of their parents? Is Costello trying to ask Muslim teenage girls to start moving

And another: Please BOYCOTT MACQUARIE UNIVERSITY [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GreenLeft_discussion/message/20549?viscount=100 ; http://www.furl.net/item.jsp?id=3985358 ];
Posted by Jigga, Saturday, 27 May 2006 12:35:14 AM
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Check your online "Wikipedia".

The definition of the word "racist" can be found more as a descriptive word in the Thesaurous.

The dictionary defines Racism as:

The belief that race accounts for DIFFERENCES in human CHARACTER or ABILITY. And that a race or more SUPERIOR to others.

My reference and comments were to the previous post in which he clearly underline his opinion on the DIFFERENCES, CHARACTER, ABILITY of a certain race. He then continues to suggest that one race was superior to his own, and his own race thought they were superior to him when they came into contact with a certain race.

This in my view has racist undertones and puts down other races against their own. And incites another civil racist undertones by putting down their own race.

This is only divisive
Posted by Suebdootwo, Saturday, 27 May 2006 1:19:04 AM
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