Well said once again Kilos. It is obvious you have hit a raw nerve with all. How sad it must be to live a life of narrow-mindedness. These individuals would seem to want their points of view taken seriously. How can one even begin to achieve that when such comments are, in the first instance, written under a blanket of anonimity. They want to see changes! Then do something about it. I have 2 suggestions which may assist them in accomplishing these goals. 1. Become a Politician, they seem to have the same intellictually impared mentality as the rest of them. 2. Make an appointment at the earliest possible convenience with their Psychiatrist, its blatently obvious that the drugs they are on are not working. Open your eyes and get a life. Your days arent over yet.T.

kilos, I gather from your comments that you are the author of the piece.

Any comment on the apparent lack of concern for the actual victims of crime (not the organisation) shown in your piece?

What is your estimate on the proportion (and/or number) of prisoners placed into these facilities as an abuse of power by prison officers vs the number in there because they have shown themselves to be a genuine security risk?

Any suggestions on more effective ways of dealing with prisoners who pose a genuine security risk?

For the record I agree with the comment posted earlier in the thread that we should not be imprisoning people who are not a known risk to the community and can be dealt with by other means. Doing so seems to be a loose/loose situation, the community spends up big time to pay for the incarceration and may well end up with a better educated criminal as an end result. Add to that the harm to family members of having a loved one incarcerated and whatever other flow on effects are involved and there has to be better ways of dealing with non violent crimes.

R0bert

Stalker “How sad it must be to live a life of narrow-mindedness.”

Judgementalist speculation based on knowing absolutely nothing about those who post here.

“written under a blanket of anonimity.”

Oh like signing on and using names like “kilos” or “stalker”.

Some of us use non-de-plumes for valid reasons, our words and views are what matter, not the public positions which we may hold.

“They want to see changes!”

I want to see changes. I want repeat violent criminals to be banged up for the rest of their natural life and as for drug dealers, second offence, top them.

“1. Become a Politician, they seem to have the same intellictually impared mentality as the rest of them.”

That would have greater impact if “intellectually” and “impaired” had been spelt correctly. But politics have never interested me, I would need to supplicate my views to public opinion, instead of being realistic about people being completely and absolutely responsible for themselves and their actions (both legal and illegal).

“2. Make an appointment at the earliest possible convenience with their Psychiatrist, its blatently obvious that the drugs they are on are not working.”

Never needed a psychiatrist (the only drugs I take are to fix an hereditary heart ailment) and if I did my partner (who works in a prison) is a psychologist who could service me (at a discount rate).

“Open your eyes and get a life. Your days arent over yet.T.”

My eyes are very open and there is nothing wrong with the “honest” life I lead and not one of my days past or the ones still to come has or will be spent being counted six times a day.

Seems to me, stalker your defensive post, which I have just responded to, illustrates a mind “narrower” than most.

It amazes me that people always want a pat on the back for becoming a decent human being after a life of criminal activity. A good and decent life should be its own reward. Upon reading the article my impression was that the author characterized himself and fellow inmates as heroes for surviving a situation that they were not exempt from being responsible for. These men made choices all their lives that put them in Katringal, and in maximum security.

Look at the case of Blevin in Phoenix, Az. last weekend. The man made choices, the man has killed again and is now dead himself. If we make choices that get us in bad places who do we have to blame?

I don't believe I have a desire to remain ignorant. I believe the variety of my posts on this topic and the information I provided are indicative of that.

As for anonymity, anyone can go on the web and find out who I am, and where I live.

In response to RObert’s question about lack of concern for my victims – I have never physically harmed or hurt any person during a bank robbery. Having said that, I do concede that I may have traumatized a lot of people but I think I have more than compensated for my crimes and that traumatization by serving nearly 18 years – 8 years in isolation at Grafton and Katingal where I underwent the same regime as other prisoners before me. Not to mention 3 years of wrongful imprisonment I served for crimes I did not commit. The slate is wiped clean. I’ve paid my debt to society over and above what was prescribed by law. But it seems Qld places higher retributive value on crimes against the property ie bank robbery than crimes against the person.
August 2004 Christopher Darryl Orchard received five years jail for 19 child sex charges relating to five children. January 2006 Orchard pleaded guilty in Brisbane District Court to a further two counts of indecent treatment of a child under 12 and a charge of sexual assault. The child victim was aged between three and five when the sexual abuse occurred. Judge Julie Ryrie sentenced Orchard to an additional six months jail and extended his parole date to November this year. It was previously recommended for August 2006. Orchard serves 2 years 3 months for child sex crimes and then he’ll be out. I did nearly 18 years for armed robbery and served every day of it. Perhaps you can help me out here Robert? Why does Qld have a marked disparity between armed robbery and crimes against kids? I am not a psychologist or an economist but, to me, something doesn’t add up in the remorse stakes. Anyway thanks for your earlier criticism.

Col, you are a true master of the semantic somersault. I am in awe of you. You serve up self-opinionated views without substantiating them with facts. How do you manage to get away with it? It is truly remarkable. Is it your IT background or do you simply subscribe to the concept that bull baffles brains? You say bad people end up in gaols and a lot of good people are put there to guard them. Perhaps you can explain why two good people at Woodford Correctional Centre raped one of their female colleagues and the incident became a claim under Qld Work Cover? Or perhaps you can explain why a former SDL CC Superintendent was dismissed for stealing and trafficking drugs. It was kept out of the mainstream media by that cute legislation that restricts media access to prisons - and therefore restricts the public’s right to know. And then there were the two good people, Superintendent Egg and his colleague Pitt, who were arrested and convicted for supplying heroin to the inmate population of Australia’s then top maximum security prison. Not to mention those good people who conducted systematic and institutionalized floggings of prisoners at Grafton and H Division for thirty-three years. The Nagle Royal Commission and the Victorian Jenkinson Inquiry unearthed all those good people. Then there were the bad people who ended up in prison like Lindy Chamberlain, Kelvin Condren, Robyn Kina, Roseanne Catt, the Mickleburg brothers, Andrew Mallard, Frank Button, Edward Splatt, Raymond Geesing, Ziggy Pohl, Doug Rendall, Tim Anderson. They all served over double digits. Guess what Col – they were all innocent! And here’s another gem for you – I too was wrongfully imprisoned on two occasions. And those are the facts Col. Cheers for now.