Earth control to Philo. The trains to Auschwitz are not running. The Iranian President has not sprouted fluff just below his nose. Get a grip on yourself (Horus knows all about that) and take a cold shower. The subject of your post is a hoax. It's been debunked. It's a D-e-a-d Dead Parrot. Cheers.

Strewth,
Having a restricted land ownership policy, based on race/religion,
And having a highly selective immigration policy, may not be programs people bought up in, prosperous & peaceful, liberal democracies can readily empathize with. (A point you exploit to the nth degree) BUT THEY DO NOT MAKE ISRAEL = NAZI GERMANY.

Outside the western countries such programs are very much the norm.
Outside the west, countries take serious steps to maintain their identity

Ground control to Strewth -whether or not Jews & Christians have to wear badges in Iran may be "debunked", but it was on the agenda in Afghanistan-but you may not like to recall such things!

Horus, Horus, Nowhere have I made the equation you claim. What I did do was ask you the following basic question which you keep shying away from: how in essence is a preoccupation with maintaining Israel's Jewish character/identity really any different from the Nazis' preoccupation with maintaining the Aryan character of pre-war Germany? The problem with Israel's "restricted land ownership policy" and "highly selective immigration policy" is that they do not operate in a vacuum. Palestine was not terra nullius when the Zionist project was conceived. It had a Palestinian majority, owning most of the land and resources, a situation which continued up until the state of Israel was declared in 1948. Not only was the Palestinian majority reduced to a minority by ethnic cleansing in 1948, but the homes, lands and assets of the ethnically cleansed (now refugees and declared 'absentees') were stolen by the new Israeli state. So, Israel's "restricted land ownership policy" is based on ethnic cleansing, expusion and wholesale theft. Likewise its "highly selective immigation policy" is based on keeping the Palestinian refugees out, simply because they are not Jews, and encouraging the immigration of anyone else, providing they are Jewish. What we have as a result is not Nazi Germany, but a form of apartheid based on the distinction between Jew and non-Jew. Such discriminatory policies, based on the dispossession and exclusion of the indigenous Palestinians, coupled with a truly vicious little occupation of the remaining bits of Palestine, are what make Israel a blight unto the nations.

Given the incredible contribution (in fact, it's downright amazing how much they are overachievers) of Jews intellectually and culturally, I'd hardly call Israel a blight unto the nations, especially since so much of this was produced in an incredibly hostile environment to Jews, ie. Europe. They may have left a mixed legacy for mankind, but I hardly think it's one-sided.

In the past few hundred years, both in Palestine and abroad, the Palestinians on the other hand have given us...have given us...that's right, just about their sole statement to mankind has been the suicide bomber. Great. Thanks for that. Under adverse conditions Jews compose music or discover science and Palestinians blow themselves up. I wonder who history will make into a mere footnote (if that).

Strewth –you all but said Israel=Nazi Germany. You were making all the usual cliché allusions to it-you know if you through enough mud, some of it will stick.
And as for the land question(s) I refer to a very interesting page I found on the internet which debunks your whole line:
http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_article=39&x_context=2

Stroube - good to hear from you again-Stewth still hasn,t taken on board some of the comments you made about other countries such as Malaysia being discriminatory.You see, it doesn't fit with his little view of the world. In his world view the Jews are the font of all evil.

Horus: I think it's quite possible that as someone said (perhaps it was you? I haven't checked) that criticising any of the many other nations on this planet doesn't get as much political mileage. Israel is a fairly easy target because it's basically white and western. However, it's harder to be critical of a nation or culture that isn't because then the basic, underlying myth of the evil white man and noble other starts to look really wobbly.

I think I'm at least open enough to show my prejudices, not that that actually means I'm going to try to overcome them (assuming there's no merit to them), of course.

I'm also open enough to admit that ultimately, I couldn't really give a rodent's earlobe because it doesn't affect me and that this is all hot air from me, which is why I've been watching but refraining from contributing to this debate -- in short, it's amusing, but ultimately a bit self-indulgent. The anti-Israel crowd won't readily admit such self-indulgence though and I'd perhaps caution you from getting dragged into it further. It's not so much a search for truth as an opportunity to hear one's own voice, and thus, justify one's own existence.