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Demystifying Jewish support for Israel : Comments

By Philip Mendes, published 10/5/2006

Just don't expect many Jews to protest against Israeli settlements any time soon.

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Savage Pencil, you say that in Arab culture dogs are considered unclean. How 'bout we find out what dogs think of Arabs?

BD no criticism of FF and his use of big words. Why?

Radical phil, why bring your ancient feuds to our shores? Why not take The alchemist's advice and take your ridiculous religious bun fight back to the holy land?
Posted by Sage, Thursday, 11 May 2006 7:59:46 PM
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radical phil, the first thing that has to be determined is what's factual. Thats an interpretation according to your position on your evolutionary path. Whats factual to a jew, christian, muslim, Buddhist, atheist, communist, non believer or whatever is always different.

The comments on this article, are representative of the majority of the Australian community,(maybe except mine). Most find it hard to understand why monotheists continue to commit war.

What's reprehensible is that monotheists place themselves above others, yet fail to realise that they are the problem, not the cure.

Philo, I understand how you see the work you do and commend you for that. But what you and other monotheists fail to grasp, is that your beliefs are the cause of what you are trying to fix. Having been in Vienna recently and knowing the situation there, through many friends, most ordained in a church, you are supporting something that Europeans are seeing as the destruction of their lifestyles and values and the collapse of their communities.

Jews believe in their right for Israel to exist where it currently is and they will destroy the world too enforce that. Yet their religion tells them, that their scared land (the body of god) is within their souls, not in the material world.

If your prepared to provide financial and philosophical support for those that determine their right by violence and suppression, when they could provide the world with a positive example of peace, care and the ability to assimilate within the general society,.then you don't belong in Australia.

If that happens, the enlightened on the planet may see the religious, as other than violent, infantile, superstitious and a danger to existence.
Posted by The alchemist, Thursday, 11 May 2006 8:04:14 PM
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Alchemist,
What do you say we do in this situation: Muslim refugees are moving into every Western nation and their young male men are joining the military forces in droves. This way they learn Western strategies of war, our secret codes etc. When conflict arises with Muslim Nations their loyalties lie first with Allah and their Muslim brothers above the country they represent. Thus is their intent to take over the world in the name of Allah and unite the Muslim brotherhood. The war on extremist Muslim terror is foiled by this chech mate move.

Do you say we fight them on the shores and in the streets so we get our freedoms back, or do we allow them to make up our armed forces? Where do you stand on war then? Are they your enemy that must be resisted? Are you a pacifist?
Posted by Philo, Thursday, 11 May 2006 9:11:18 PM
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Applying Dr Phil's "Jews [He means Zionists] have persecuted others. Ditto Arabs and Palestinians" to Nazi Germany, and you get 'Germans have persecuted others. Ditto Jews.' To the era of slavery, and you get 'Slave owners have persecuted others. Ditto slaves.' To apartheid South Africa, and you get 'White Supremicists have persecuted others. Ditto South African blacks. To West Papua, and you get 'Indonesians persecute others. Ditto West Papuans.' This kind of useless, centrist fence-sitting only strengthens the oppressors. If Dr Phil can sit "on the margins" of his community and make a living out of platitudes like the above, no wonder the bulk of his community never get around to protesting Israeli settlements and occupation.
Posted by Strewth, Thursday, 11 May 2006 9:18:36 PM
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Just a quick reply to Sage re. dogs and Arab culture. The words in brackets were in the ORIGINAL article published in The Telegraph on February 12, 2006. It probably would have been more appropriate for The Telegraph to have used Islamic culture, rather than Arab culture, as not all Arabs are Muslim. However it does appear that dogs are considered to be "impure" in Islamic culture.

Here is what an Islamic website (islamicconcern.org) has to say about dogs:
"Traditionally, dogs have been seen as impure, and the Islamic legal tradition has developed several injunctions that warn Muslims against most contact with dogs."

I hope that has kept you informed.
Posted by Savage Pencil, Thursday, 11 May 2006 10:29:02 PM
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Philo, there you have the problem. Its the influence of religion that has placed countries in this situation, in their desire to populate or perish and their desire to allow anyone to come to their country in the hope they can convert them.

Send them back, don't allow immigration, or refugees. Thats the problem your beliefs have given us, your constant desire to control, no matter what god faction you are from. I'm a pacifist, it comes from active service. But I certainly won't hesitate to defend my country as violently as possible.

Australia may have a chance of surviving the current escalation in sociological breakdown, caused by god factions. To do that we need strong non religious leaders, who are prepared to shut this country down, look after ourselves first and let the world work itself out.

Sadly that won't happen as our leaders follow god, so their determined to take us down the same road via globalisation and open borders. Which by the way have been fully supported by all religious factions and still are, even as their societies collapse around them.

The only solution for isreal is war, nothing else will satisfy both factions. Those that support Israel monetarily are contributing to ongoing terrorism as much as muslims are. That makes gods country the USA, a supporter of Israel terrorism. Even the jews fight amongst themselves violently, but we can expect nothing less from the followers of god

As the belief in god is a primitive delusion, hopefully evolution is passing it by. We may be seeing the last death throes of the violent superstition called god. Lets hope it happens quickly so evolution can go on and not be held back by these psychological primitives
Posted by The alchemist, Friday, 12 May 2006 8:27:06 AM
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