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Backdown invites more demands : Comments

By Tony Kevin, published 19/4/2006

The more Canberra caves in to Jakarta's demands, the more we invite danger.

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If you make stupid comments, you get ridiculed. That is just cause-and-effect :-)
Posted by Proud to be Indonesian, Saturday, 29 April 2006 1:52:49 AM
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Ah, so that is why people ridicule you left-right and centre.

Oh well, if it pleases you to write superficial unintelligent responses that don’t address the issues, then so be it.
Posted by Ludwig, Saturday, 29 April 2006 9:14:03 PM
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@Ludwig:

It seems you have very short memory span, let me summarise the dialogue in this particular subject:

WRITER: Indonesia should not intervene in Australian visa decision.

ME: Indonesia don't want to intervene in Australian affairs, we merely wants to guarantee our security.

PERSEUS: Australia is very influential in Indonesia, and should support the destruction of Australia.

ME: Australia has no influence in Indonesia and Australia has no capability to destroy Indonesia.

PERSEUS: Australia has lots of influence in Indonesia, without Aussie aid Indonesian economy and govt would collapse.

ME: The tsunami has no impact on Indonesian economy, and Australian aid is not so important as Perseus imagined.

It is clear I am the one who make the best and most sensible posts, while Aussie posters like Perseus made the most ridicilous posts.
Posted by Proud to be Indonesian, Saturday, 29 April 2006 11:53:23 PM
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Then perhaps PTBI should start a campaign to hand the money back or stop it getting through in the first place. That would be one thing we could all agree on.
Posted by Perseus, Monday, 1 May 2006 10:50:27 PM
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^^ LOL, what is wrong, Perseus? Shocked that Indonesians do not feel intimidated by your puny threats? That is why you should never attempt to use aid as weapon to bully and threaten another country. It'll never work.
Posted by Proud to be Indonesian, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 6:03:21 AM
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PTBI

[in response to your post of 29 April]

So you are saying that because one Australian – Perseus – put some stuff to you that you didn’t think was right, it has given you the excuse to knock even the very best of Australian positivity towards Indonesia (“….your puny Australian aid…”).

Even if every person you are ‘debating’ with on this forum was really offensive and biased, it would not give you an excuse to be the same. You don’t have a clue about diplomacy, or how a lack of diplomacy has all but destroyed your credibility.

If you can call a $billion in aid plus an enormous on-ground assistance effort puny, then you obviously don’t have a single nice word for Australia and are biased to the absolute extreme.

The fact is, you genuinely think that Australia’s aid effort is puny and that Australia could not do a thing right as far as Indonesia is concerned, other than staying completely and utterly our of Indonesia’s affairs. Is this right? Can you give a simple yes or no answer to this question?

And how about an answer to my previous straight question from the ‘We’re too desperate to please Jakarta’ thread, asked now four times – “is it your intention to stir up strife on this forum, which will filter into other areas and increase polarisation and conflict between our countries?”

I assume that your complete lack of response means that this is indeed your primary motive.
Posted by Ludwig, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 7:49:17 PM
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