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The ALP should take on the IR laws : Comments

By Mark Hearn and Grant Michelson, published 20/4/2006

Labor should be bold enough to offer Australia a better way.

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Belly

please use spell check your posts are becoming completely illegible.

For example, what the F#@K are 'air theaves'?

A comment I could make out was that you consider yourself to have many 'brothers' but no 'comrades'. Okay. What about SISTERS. Women work. We are effected by IR changes just as much as men in case it slipped your mind. At least 'comrade' included ALL workers, mate.

I am beginning to see you as a one track thinker. There is more to the working environment than accepting extreme right-wing, pro-employer/big business. Which if I understand your posts, you appear to be doing.

Workers are the foundation for any business - if they are not healthy, working in good conditions, in receipt of an appropriate wage for the type of work provided, then a business has nothing.

It is reprehensible that workers are perceived as a bizarre 'luxury' that can be dispensed with if a company wants to increase profits. Workers are a part of the deal. If a business doesn't factor in the cost of wages as a part of costings for a service or product, then it simply shouldn't be in business at all. It is twisted reality to view workers as extraneous to running a business.

A temp job I performed was for a large corporation that had sacked so many of its low level workers that teams of temps were required to fill in the vacancies. Absolute madness. The office was a large open plan with rows and rows of work stations in the centre (all vacant). Around the perimeter were little glass offices, each with a management level employee (all male) - they weren't sacked! While I was there this company started rehiring people. All this occurred years before the new IR laws. And now there is no protection for workers at all. People are now less than commodities.

Tell me, Belly, just what do you propose should be done about the IR changes?

And please check your spelling.
Posted by Scout, Tuesday, 9 May 2006 8:37:56 AM
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Thanks for that Scout. I didnt want to say it.God help the workers if Belly is the representation they can look forward to. Let me share this little pearler from issue 8 The Australian Worker (AWU magazine) at pg 46. "............Hedley prides himself on keeping a cool head during negotiations with Crane Enfield.But he's no pushover.During negotiations for a new EBA mid last year, Crane Enfield was pushing to increase casual workers from 5% to 30%. ....."Casuals have real problems getting a home loan-or any kind of finance," Hedley says.
"Management told us they could get through 30% by taking it to the Commission, but we kept at them and we got it down to 15%."

So there you have it. Negotiations a'la AWU.
Give away 10% and call it a victory. Cheers Belly.
Posted by hedgehog, Tuesday, 9 May 2006 11:04:02 AM
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Here is a story,the most important legall case in 100yrs <work choices> Howard voters are selfish and our kids will have to pay for the selfish actions of people like you. Howard is a blatant liar and you all vote for him because "oh no interest rates" or "he makes me feel safe" You all are selling out our country and I will never forgive Howard voters again.
IR, AWB, WELFARE TO WORK- DISABLED AS WELL, CHILDREN OVERBOARD,IRAQ, AND SELLS ALL OUR ASSETS. I am sure all your grandparents would kick you Howard voters square in the arse.
Please wake up and read what has been going on with this government and stop just worrying about yourselves, and if you didnt know already the Howard Government does not even control interest rates.
Posted by Sly, Tuesday, 9 May 2006 5:57:56 PM
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Sly, do you want to tell us something we dont know?
Posted by hedgehog, Wednesday, 10 May 2006 1:55:45 PM
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Hedgehog, you might now whats going on but 60% of voters either dont
know or have no morals. Enjoy your tax cuts because the new IR bill
will take away much much more.
Posted by Sly, Wednesday, 10 May 2006 3:17:39 PM
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born in a different time I the oldest of 16 railway fettlers kids left a school not yet a teenager, I had hardly attended to help feed my brothers and sisters do not dare say I am not a worker.
Now why the spelling matters has me wondering, on construction sites all over my area only I turn up, unable to threaten and scream at bosses some stay away.
The storey about me feeding another unions members is true!
And stop the rubbish that I am sexist comrade is a generic term for both male and female but tainted by its use by comunists, the same comunists who treated workers like slaves and thought human rights to be a western illness.
Labor will reform IR return rights to unions and workers, just yesterday I was told by a very big name in construction I must be told how to enter the site and meet only members!
Last never least I am ALP right the left are also rans in the party and the real world.
In the Tragic Tassy mine my proud AWU flew familly at no cost from Qld and Newcastle without highlighting that fact as some do we are after all familly.
Review the thread the left has run a hate and smear campaign against me and my union,,, explain then folks why we are Australias bigest union?
Reform will only come via a Labor goverment not ever the greens.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 10 May 2006 6:53:08 PM
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