FYI to back up something BD said:
Peter Singer (who spoke on philosophy at my high school) has argued that beastiality is OK so long as you don't hurt the animal, and that killing one's children is morally OK up until the age of 2.

Braka, Leigh benjamin et al; give us a rest - you keep injecting every string on this site with some anti muslim gobble dee gook!

I dare say you would see the dark hand of Islamism casting its
shadow in the text of some story written about cake decorating or lion taming.

This was a parable on byoorokratcik stupity and political correctness;

get a hobby and leave this hobby horse alone; its as boring as bat droppings this muslim thing. I know obsessive compulsive disorders are very hard to treat but there may still be hope - for our sake I sincerely pray (whooops) there is; give it a go. Call some one. Call some one now. Please. If not for yourselves for the rest of humanity.

Baraka is correct.

For there still to be some who can't see the obvious racism, no, that's a euphemism, xenophobia, of a great proportion of Australia's Islamic community, they musn't be able to join the dots.

Studies into marriage practises in the Islamic community reveal shocking levels of what they call "in-marriage", where the community rarely marries outside itself. Almost 75% of Lebanese Muslim males return to Lebanon to find a wife.

When a Muslim wants to marry an infidel, their own family often disowns them. Be serious Shonga, Muslims are people too. Some of them need our support, especially those who leave Islam.

Islam is so backward that it decries those who do this must die, this is no weird interpretation, this is Islam, plain and simple.

Homosexuals must be stoned to death is another teaching you won't hear Muslims denounce. If we don't stand up to these people what chance have those in their community who are gay, or who do want to leave Islam.

You can't even imagine the oppression. Girls who don't want to wear the veils often are threatened, bashed, and have their heads shaved by their brothers so they have to wear it.

Mamdouh Habib's son was convicted of this crime not long ago.

The issue of racially motivated gang rapes is another issue of concern. Never before have we seen such barbarism outside of wartime, yet the fanilies of those convicted, even the females, were attacking the court staff, victims families, calling their daughters sluts.

An SBS crew that went to Lakemba mosque on the day the 14 rapists were sentenced were bashed by mosque-goers. Before this happened though they got footage of Muslims calling the girls sluts, and laughing about it, in the mosque.

Islamic values are nothing like those of Christianity, where forgiveness is all. How many times have you heard of a preacher arrested for wanting to kill people? It goes against Jesus fundamental values.

Don't be so naive.

YngNLuvnIt, Boaz doesn't need your support, especially when it is so weak.

>>to back up something BD said: Peter Singer ... has argued that beastiality is OK ... and that killing one's children is morally OK<<

Peter Singer has been much quoted whenever the topic of bestiality comes up, but very few people (including you, I suspect) ever check the context.

Peter's article "Heavy Petting" was a review of a book called "Dearest Pet: On Bestiality".

Peter Singer's observation on the topic is:

"But not every taboo has crumbled. Heard anyone chatting at parties lately about how good it is having sex with their dog? Probably not. Sex with animals is still definitely taboo."

Being Peter, he goes on to muse over why this might be, but still manages to end with the thought "This does not make sex across the species barrier normal, or natural, whatever those much-misused words may mean", which hardly supports your claim that he "has argued that beastiality is OK"

You go on to say that he thinks that "killing one's children is morally OK up until the age of 2", which is nothing less than a gross distortion of a fascinating Socratic approach to the pro-life/pro-choice argument.

What he (approximately) argues is, that unless you believe that all forms of contraception are intrinsically wrong, you should also accept that parents have the right to terminate unwanted lives at any point.

It is of course too difficult for you to see how this is, in fact, a reductio ad absurdum, designed to make you think through very carefully how you build an argument for a pro-abortion position.

Note that Singer's end-point in this argument is essentially pro-life. Does not that strike you as interesting? Of course, he does have some way-points in the same argument that cause pain, but only with people who fail to grasp that actually engaging with a topic, and applying some rational thought to it, is a beneficial exercise.

Just the sound-bites for you, YngNLuvnIt.

Off you go. Turn on the Channel Nine News.

Leigh ,I too smiled at your quod, it says a lot about your religious mindset, I see you are having a problem putting a label on mangotree, thats to be expected you and your mates have lots of experiance putting wrong labels on religious groups you all back each other up. maybe you are one and the same, The Holy Profanity. your meaningless profanities add flavour/stench to the swill you stir. wouldn't it be nice to write about good things for a change, your mates seem to have a short list of crimes [six or so ] committed by Muslims, shame on you, If you continue to dance to the same tune do us all a favour dig up some new facts, I for one am sick and tired of the same old record[ of criminal events] being played at every opportunity, your bag of dirty tricks must be empty.

There is a language of love that Jesus wrote about, Barraca you need to learn that language, then you may understand what people are saying, every God Club can lay claim to having commited some of the worst crimes against humanity, the God Clubs have many, many, stories to tell, all of them can be pigeon holed under propaganda, those stories never came from the Prophets , more likely the doctors of spin, the greatest God Club exuse is, "the devil made me do it", or "I am doing Gods work" what a load of crap.
God blames no one, so why do we pray for forgiveness, to forgive you must first blame, if God had wanted human beings to spend a lifetime on their knees , why did God allow human beings to stand up, if God had wanted human beings to kill their neighbours he would have given us ,claws and fangs, lets see some intelligent comments, do God a favour edit your posts for a change,