I read about the Dutch film with great guffaws. Anyone hoping to leave a dysfunctional country is never going to be put off by watching homosexual activities or anything else in the West. They simply will wait until they get here then try to impose the values that they supposedly were trying to get away from on us.
They also would have knowledge on how soft the law is here, that the bleeding heart brigade will defend anything they do and that Aussies are easily walked over.
No mere film will change their minds. This is the lucky country for some.

Hi all

meredith (post 8:48:17 PM 13/3/06)

You're right. But let's be cautiously patient.
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kalweb (post 10:49:02 PM 13/3/06)

Most of the early Lebanese immigrants were Maronite Christians. Some did serve in Vietnam, but there weren't many - many were just starting to arrive in Australia, having escaped what Yassar ARAFAT & his henchmen were unleashing. [That's Nobel Peace Prize-winning YA. Incredible!]

As you know, until the mid-70s, our influx of Muslims wasn't great. The earliest Muslim settlers, during the 19th Century, were camel-herders. They integrated. So did the Maronites, etc.
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MzzDermeanor (post 11:07:50 PM 13/3/06)

You affirm some of my comments to "kalweb".

Be proud of the sacrifices that your relatives made. War isn't always just. But oppression & ethnic cleansing can never be tolerated.
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meredith (post 11:20:26 PM 13/3/06)

".. what has islam done for us?"
It should have given us the ability to overcome indifference, apathy & procrastination. It hasn't - with some exceptions.

It should have made us question our values & those of others. It should have made us analytical. But ...
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CARNIFEX (post 4:49:48 AM 14/3/06)

Under any other regime Muhammed would have been excommunicated, committed on criminal charges, or subjected to public ridicule. But he was the law (itself), & his henchmen & sword made it so.

What Muhammed did to Sauda Bint Zam'ah, his 9th 'wife' - who replaced Khadijah - was atrocious. But his lust for Aisha at age 6-years & consummation at age 9-years affirms your appraisal.

His passions were women, scents & food - & fighting. The only justice that the world got, because of his weaknesses, was when he was poisoned by a beautiful Jewish girl who cooked him a shoulder of lamb. She did it in retribution for his enslavement of her tribal group.
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Cheers all

Hi all

Belly (post 5:42:40 AM 14/3/06)

If you value your "freedom of speech" - a Common Law right - you'll oppose any attempt to introduce a "Racial & Religious Tolerance Bill".

Some seem to want such laws to help stifle comment & discussion.
Unlike a stolen item, one can't easily defend against non-tangible vilification - the legislation is 'weighted' with a "presumption of guilt".
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Irfan (post 2:18:40 PM 14/3/06)

Before beginning, some comments regards your 'blog':
1) the Finn brothers are New Zealanders, not Australians. I was a musician for some 27-years. I worked with many New Zealanders - Robert TAYLOR (Dragon) & Geith PICKFORD etc. I Neil's drummer, Paul HESTER.
2) Kate Ceberano's dad, Tino, was/is a Martial Artist. He was 5th Degree, Goju-Kai Karate (Okinawan), when I last saw him - mid/late-80s.

I also agree that our Tourism Industry advertising is inappropriate for a sophisticated, international audience. Whilst the slogan can be "Where the bloody hell arya?", should it? What does it portray to others? - especially our target Asian & multi-ethnic European markets.

I agree: "Lebanese migrants belong to a variety of denominations (as nominated)". That's a reason to avoid ethnic bias - & I've stated that belief previously.

I've heard quotes of only about 15% of the world's Muslim population being Arabic. Lebanese are likely to be a small proportion of Australia's Muslim population. There'd be accurate statistics somewhere.
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mickijo (post 3:39:49 PM 14/3/06)

You're right "Mickijo" & we need to courageously speak the truth & reveal Islam's failings - our ancestors deserve it; our children deserve it. Patronising, non-recognition will teach the future generations to distort truth.

We'll also need to encourage Muslims & non-Muslims to continue to "trumpet" those 'shortcomings' through their public stance against "radical Islam". Irfan YUSUF should be one who leads such a public outcry.

The following gives the world an opportunity to see that independent, non-religious Arabic women are making a stance.
http://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1050#
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Cheers all

froggie...

that is exactly what I have been ranting about for Australia.. a comprehensive statement about our culture..

Perhaps (in view of Rednecks comments) a detailed explanation of our divorce laws would discourage Muslims somewhat.. the thought that their WIVES can divorce THEM..(and gain a heap of property/money) appears to be a source of incessant irritation to them here.

In fact.. such a video/document should focus mostly on those cultural aspects which are most different from Islamic/Sharia and people should be tested on their understanding, and sign on the dotted line that they will NOT seek to change our culture or laws by any means once they arrive. In fact..their citizenship or permanent residence would DEPEND on loyalty in this matter.

WE NEED IT ALSO here.. Take note Immigration dept.

Buddy
I looked up the issue of Sauda.. and all I can say is that it underlines the incredible harshness and coldness of this man who is supposed to be a prophet of Allah..

I quote as follows: http://debate.domini.org/newton/sauda.html

... on the authority of Ibn ‘Abbas who said: Sauda feared that the Prophet of Allah might divorce her, so she said to him: O Prophet of Allah, do not divorce me, and my day shall belong to ‘Aisha. So he did and that verse Q. 4:128 was revealed."

Here is the order of events in point form....

1/ Sauda is married by Mohammed
2/ Sauda believes he might divorce her because 'she is old'
3/ He does seek to divorce her.
4/ She negotiates a settlement, she wants to be resurrected among his wives, so gives her 'fulfillment/bed' day to Aisha the 'favorite' and YOUNGest wife.
5/ She is allowed to remain married to him.
6/ Mohammed now has 2 days for his FAVORITE illegal wife Aisha (illegal because she is treated as a favorite)

NOW... this is the mind blowing evidence of how cunning and opportunistic this evil man was..

He justifies his cruelty and lust and FAVORITEism for a YOUNG girl in direct contradiction of the supposed revelation of 4:3

If you deem it best for the orphans, you may marry their mothers - you may marry two, three, or four. If you fear lest you become unfair, then you shall be content with only one, or with what you already have.

KEY WORDS "If you fear you will become UNFAIR"... have only one.

...by now making up a CONVENIENT revelation of "if they settle, its ok" 4:128/129

He would have us believe that the Quran (from God) teaches:

a) A man canNOT have more than 1 wife if he cannot treat them EQUALLY
b) a man canNOT treat them equally no matter how hard he tries....

duh ! so.. why say he can have up to 4 and why marry NINE including Aisha the child ? Sexually Insatiable ?

BEWARE...WOLVES IN SHEEPS CLOTHING !

You're right BOAZ_David, we do need a comprehensive statement of our culture. One thing that really annoys me is that many migrants believe somehow that we don't have a culture!

They think culture is a plate of food and a dress. They say we have bland food, but I always reply to that, when most cultures were content with covering off meat with some sort of exotic spice, we were too busy inventing the fridge.

However, such superficial nonsense is where most cultures end. Ours begins there....ours has depth. Western cultures have philosophers, thinkers, scientists, musicians.

But most importantly, we have a dynamic, fluidic culture that is always changing, tolerant of new ideas, people, etc. We won't kill people because they are from QLD & we are from NSW. It makes me sick how most cultures are tribalistic lunatics, racists who hate others who are different.

However, I do have one un negotiable condition. I believe that western culture, not people, not white skin, the culture, IS SUPERIOR to other cultures. It's not about money, Saudi Arabia has money but it's still a racist dump where you can die for being Christian. Japan has money but they are fiercely racist, even the South Koreans who have lived there for 100 years, speak no Korean and know only Japan still can't buy land, occupy high office, and so on.

I believe that the western developed principles of Human rights are better than the caste systems of India, Muslim Sharia, and all the other immoral codes. They do too! they are all coming here arent they!

Westerners tolerate anyone except intolerance. Most other cultures aim to subjugate the outsider, like Muslim Dhimmitude, etc.

People need to grow up, realise we are all human, and should obey rights everybody agrees upon, human rights. just because westerners came up with it doesnt mean it's their system and that if they accept it they are westerners and have lost their identity.

The modern west is the future, get used to it.