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By Dave Smith, published 9/3/2006Do the cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed really constitute free speech?
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Posted by Suebdootwo, Monday, 13 March 2006 12:00:55 AM
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All Forum contributors should READ the reference provided by Kactuz
Please do so... please. It is one of the clearest explanations of Islamic views on criticism of Mohammed. It shows clearly how the religion was held together and expanded by the continual threat of death hanging over even an INDIRECT criticism of Mohammed. By simply referring to Mohammed as 'your' companion, (as in 'not mine') to Khalid bin Al Waleed (MOhammed's major hit man) Malik ibn Nuwayra was killed. Such incidents are used to support the Shafi and Hanifi schools of Islamic law emphasising death penalties for critics of Mohammed (may the judgement of Almighty God be upon him). Let us be under no illusion. We are at war. bullets are not zinging past our ears yet, (except in Cronulla) but words are. Stand true, stand strong Australia. Support the 'Emporer' in his role of deterring the evildoer (Romans 13) The difference between the media/government and forums like this, when referring to 'terrorism' is that we give it the correct name. Posted by BOAZ_David, Monday, 13 March 2006 9:00:24 AM
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Could it be that the violence demonstrated all over the world by “outraged” Muslims was, itself, orchestrated?
"…the “outraged” imams nonetheless launched a planned, concerted campaign (http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,,1702104,00.html) to deliberately whip up Muslim “anger” by sending a delegation throughout the Islamic world handing out a 43 page document containing 15 images… instead of 12. The first of the three additional pictures, which are of dismal quality, shows Muhammad as a pedophile deamon (sic), the second shows the prophet with a pig-snout and the third depicts a praying Muslim being raped by a dog. Apparently, the 12 original pictures were not deemed bad enough to convince other Muslims that Muslims in Denmark are the victims of a campaign of religious hatred." "Akhmad Akkari, spokesman of the 21 Danish Muslim organizations which organized the tour, explained that the three drawings had been added to "give an insight in how hateful the atmosphere in Denmark is towards Muslims." Akkari claimed he does not know the origin of the three pictures. He said they had been sent anonymously to Danish Muslims. However, when Ekstra Bladet asked if it could talk to these Muslims, Akkari refused to reveal their identity.” http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/668 "Their 'explanations' were biased and inaccurate. The Danish-Egyptian Dialog Center in Cairo says that after meeting with the Muslim representatives from Denmark the Egyptian press has claimed that Danish newspapers are waging a campaign against Islam, that Copenhagen plans to introduce a state censored version of the Koran, that a Danish film is underway to show how horrible Islam is, and that the matter involves 120 cartoons – not 12.” http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/646 It took four months to do the job to the extent that the western mainstream media at last picked up the story of what appeared to be "spontaneous" Muslim "outrage". The editor of a Jordanian newspaper that suggested Muslim anger was unreasonable, was sacked and has now been arrested and jailed. Al-Shihan had run the cartoons, arguing: “What brings more prejudice against Islam, these caricatures or pictures of a hostage taker slashing the throat of his victim?” http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/jordanian-newspaper-editors-arrested/2006/02/05/1139074095486.html Posted by SandiM, Monday, 13 March 2006 4:07:31 PM
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Yes, I believe in free speech, but should anybodies religion or belief be ridiculed? NO!!
Nobodies.. Posted by Rena, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 4:58:31 PM
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In our current society, these cartoons do constitute free speech.
It is speech. People are free to speak this way. They may not be nice, agreeable, kind and fair. They may even be rude, and offensive. However, if we do not retain the right to publish such cartoons, we will either (1) create a double standard, where Islam has a privileged 'sacrosanct' standard all of its own, or (2) we will have to begin a huge - massive - censorship program, beyond imagining, in all areas of current media. No double standard I say. And yes, why not lift the standard of public debate and criticism while we are at it, - but in freedom of will, not religious legislation. Posted by tennyson's_one_far-off_divine_event, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 9:27:10 PM
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Nothing Muslims can say makes the free world feel insulted,so they have to resort to intimidation and threats of violence.Muslims on the other hand feel easily insulted by comments of the free world.
Either Muslims don't have much faith in their belief system and thus feel inferior to the free world ie [feel compelled to prove a point] or they are a bunch of power hungry facists driven by the ideals of the Koran and deep seated insecurities created by a flawed philosophy. Surely if someone has discovered the essence and nature of the universe,they would be at peace with themselves and have no desire to seek control over others.People will naturally gravitate to a self fulfilling philosophy that sustains itself and grows with the natural order of their new experiences. Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 10:56:54 PM
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The level of maturity and wisdom has nutured a society of good will and understanding.
It was the "choice" of the Newspaper and editor that is in question?
What was the agenda of this newspaper and editor, although it had ridiculed other religious denominations in depicted in cartoon character