kalweb wants to know the difference between Muslim and Moslem. Go to your MS Word and 'lookup' the words there. Muslim is a follower of Islam. Moslem is an offensive term for a Muslim. Do not ask me why; I have no idea why the English language is so. Remember the original word is from the Arabic script.

Yorgo

Alan-Bold (sorry I mis-spelt your name earlier)

There is a good reason why people have responded to your posts with anti-muslim rhetoric - you asked specific questions indicating your prejudices and were given straight answers. You reap what you sow as has been said already. Can you not see that Sayed is seeking oppression of Western society. What is worse is that the UN may be considering it too.

If there is anything that should unite all Australians it is democracy and freedom of speech. Maybe there really should be a Bill of Rights so that everyone is clear on what Australia stands for.

I can sympathise with you in that many on this forum are somewhat excessive in their posts and cannot see that Western society, Christianity and Islam are as bad as each other when it comes to horrific acts. As always it is about power and not about God at all. I do not believe that any God will look kindly on those who use his name as an excuse for violence or hatred.

However everyone is entitled to their view and you have the option of either responding or ignoring them. This is a freedom that many in the world do not have. It is something that we regard as a basic human right and will defend if necessary.

I agree that Aborigines were treated badly in the past and still are to an extent. However few races in this world are innocent of such atrocities and I think it is quite likely that your ancestors were involved in something similar. Correct me if I am wrong. In fact as a migrant to Australia you are just as guilty of taking advantage of this country's heritage as the rest of us. We should learn from past mistakes but we cannot undo them.

You may find this site helpful:
http://www.ourcivilisation.com/cooray/rights/chap6.htm#6.1

Thor - I believe that Alan_Bold said that he is not a Muslim.

It's frightening to see theres no difference between the 3 opposing religious sides, christian, muslim, jew. All originate from the same place, same god, same suspect history, same violent pasts, same violent present.

You all say it's an intelligent belief system, yet the intelligent people of the world are petrified as to what the followers of god are taking us to. With my humble crystal ball, it doesn't look like paradise, actually it looks like hell, that your beleifs present us with, as our future.

You may rant and rave against what I am saying, but the facts are there for us to see. The virus religion, is rapidly spreading throughout the world, contaminating and destroying everything it touches. In the past it was constrained by borders and seas, now there are no borders and the seas easy to cross.

The God belief system is destroying us, but the religious are to infantile to see. With evidence growing daily, you still demand you are right, so theres no escapong this outcome. Your destroying this country, our cities, suburbs, ways of life.

Those originally forced to this country, weren't religious, the system was. Now you have grown enough strength in your factions, to again begin the battle for the first time in Australia.

What you don't understand is, in this country all religion is a minority. Unlike the rest of the world who are a bunch of brainwashed wimps, we're not gong to stand for it.

Muslims, christians, Jews, probably 80% of this country don't want you here, we've put up with you because you kept quiet. Now your big a problem, in our governments and social standards. Your desire is to inflict upon us your despotic religious and moral constraints, you won't shut up, you don't have the brains to. Once the people get control, they won't want treacherous religions here, none of them.

We didn't build this country on christian values, we built it in spite of them.

Golly, Thor, I'm wondering what 'hold' Islamists have over Western press. Very little, given this forum and countless others.

We all know it is offensive to Muslims for Mohammed to be portrayed by illustration. It's a simple concept, in the same vein as the tradition of Australian aborigines not to show images of their deceased ancestors. ABC television warns viewers if such images will appear during a program, and by this logic our national broadcaster is beholden to aboriginal interests. Would you run with that?

Why do we go out of our way to print pointless cartoons known to offend? Cos we can? Get real. The article isn't a debate about the relative merits of Islam Vs name-your-religion but about the collective Western press belittling their God, part of what they believe is a larger campaign against Islam in general. It doesn't matter if it's untrue. As with faith, belief makes it true.

"MY ANCESTORS BUILT THIS COUNTRY ON CHRISTRIAN VALUES, FREDDOM OF EXPRESSION, AND WOMEN"S RIGHTS" Utter crap. Australia was built upon the cat o'nine tails and the landed aristocracy. Christian values, free speech and women's rights are much more recent developments.

Bennie,

Not quite – the cartoon illustrations appeared in an Egyptian paper in October last – NO REACTION – I ask you why?

The ABC warns aboriginal viewers about ancestral pictures... BUT still plays the movies – that is freedom of expression – I don’t see flag torching related to the ABC broadcasts – do you?

Context! please

Alchemist,

Same non-factual stuff – BOOOORING!

Think you missed my point Coach. The ABC treats the issue as they ought. No more, no less.
As for these cartoons appearing in the Egyptian press, your point is?