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Abusing freedom of expression : Comments

By Syed Atiq ul Hassan, published 10/2/2006

The media has a responsibility to the on going civic development of society but not to insult and promote disharmony.

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Sunisle

The vast majority of the posters here decry the hypocritical nature of Syed's article and the hypocritical nature of those who support his view.
It is of course no surprise that no Muslim has criticised Syed's argument against free speech by the West. It is also no surprise no Muslim has supported freedom of speech in the Muslim world. Indeed it is no surprise no muslim has criticised the exact same denigration of religion in the muslim world.

WHY?

Well let's take a little look at my insults to you but only after we take a wee peek at those you initiated in your original post.

First sentence 'I wonder if all these Islamaphobes self-righteously...'

Second sentence 'Muslims are easy game for bullies...' AND 'those....without having to do much reading or thinking.'

Third sentence '...for those in a coma these few'

Fourth sentence Nil

Fifth sentence '...being equally conned and manipulated by their leaders...as those in the west are.'

Sixth sentence '...human beings are like pawns in a chess game between the so-called leaders.'

Seventh NIl

Eighth Nil

So in your post you say I'mself-righteous, Islamphobic, a bully, uninformed and ignorant, comatose, conned and manipulated, and a mere pawn.
Wow only nine insults in eight sentences.

And of course the biggest insult was to my intelligence when you, as seems to be a trait common to those who hate free speech,

Turned around and said

'Personal insults do not constitute an effective argument- they show that you have none.'

after I had responed to your hate filled post with a polite and simple question

'Are you awake or merely mumbling in the pre-dawn?'

I'd have to agree with you that personal insults do not constitute an effective argument- they show that you have none.


Mate I have to ask are you Muslim ...as hypocritical criticism seems common and a trait?

No I'm not racist but your rants make it appear to be the case with you.
Posted by keith, Saturday, 11 February 2006 6:14:57 PM
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Keith your not a racist as you mentioned rather Xenophobic?

– just a confused and ignorant member of our society - like i said earlier

by the way quite an amusing post - you should consider drawing cartoons -
Posted by Myriah, Saturday, 11 February 2006 6:28:55 PM
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Yes, truth always bitter…
No need for ignited comments

Alan_Bold asked you some bitter question, so you all who blew out the listing of historical facts never have answers to his question – and I know neither you would have answer nor you would have courage to accept the cruelty done by those killers of humanity but you still dare to abuse others….. Shame – and now keep writing and abusing others as this is what you all call your freedom of speech

Freedom of Speech in the West!?

When Aljazeera showed the images of brutal killings by US-lead forces in Iraq then your God Father Bush and Blair – Champions of Freedom and fair democracy – planned to bomb Aljazeera ….. This is what your democracy and freedom of speech…..

USA – the key country of Freedom of Speech – has most of its media censoring things from the general public – after 9/11 it was very controversial –the video evidence is there of the conspiracy behind it all – yet it was banned from the public when about to be aired – is this freedom of speech? – Bush banned all the forth-coming documentaries –

Freedom of Speech in the West is just artificial – we are far from freedom of speech –

Whatever happened to the Terrorism Bill passed – The Sedition Laws – wouldn’t the cartoon be enticing terrorism? Oh wait we just passed those laws because we are afraid of the Truth

Time and again – continually facts are hidden from us in this so-called democratic free society in the West – those who still live in a false box of hope should wake up…

Those who think that the Muslim world is at fault you should wake up and realise that our own kind – our own people – are the ones behind ruining the life of others for their own wealth and benefit – The West has opened the Pandora Box not the East -

“As flies to Wanton bees are we to the Gods (leaders) – they kill us for their Sport”
Posted by Jeny, Saturday, 11 February 2006 7:26:11 PM
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The Islamic faith is entrenched in politics.

Why not print the cartoons in Australia? Why are we protecting a minority group?

The Queen of England (head of C of E) cops cartoons regularly. She doesn't blow up mosques in retaliation.

Aussie politicians cop some pretty awful cartoons every day of the week. That's life in politics.

Why do so few people of Muslim faith contribute to the postings on this forum?

The cartoons should be printed in all newspapers so that we can see how the Aussie "moderates" (including Keysar Trad) react.

Cheers
Kay
Posted by kalweb, Saturday, 11 February 2006 7:28:47 PM
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Ok.. Jeny and others.. you claim no-one answered Alan Bolds questions:

Here:

1/ Hitler..and we ensured his demise, i.e. the free world did.
2/ Paid Agents ? err.. not sure what you mean here.
3/ Who made Jews homeless ? Pagan Romans in AD70 when they exiled them. (then Mohammed who committed Genocide against Banu Qurayza and exiled other Jewish tribes)
4/ Who colonized the world ?..oh.. er..that would be the ARABS.. who expanded their empire all over India,Afghanistan,China, Egypt, Syria Turkey etc... slaughtering millions (specially in India)
Oh.. The Western nations also did their share, and slaughtered many also. Britain, Holland, Portugal, Spain, Germany, France etc etc

5/ Weapons to Sadaam ? The US did of course, to balance the power of Iran, its called 'divide and conquer' in military terms. They can fight each other rather than us. Of course.. the Arabs have nevvvvvver done this right ? :) never ever ever...

6/ Yes, you can go on and on picking out black marks on Western history and you would be quite right. Just as we are quite right in picking out not only the black marks in Arab history, but also the PERSONAL history of your esteemed so called prophet.

Al-Jazeera were 'aiding the enemy' in showing a close link with Al Qaeda and giving extremely biased reports and publicising horrific acts by Muslim insurgents. "You reap what you sow". Its war..

Math 24.
4Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,[a]' and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.

15"So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,'[b] spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand—


The Al-Aksah Mosque.. is an abomination..on the Holy place.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Saturday, 11 February 2006 8:18:06 PM
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Jeny: In my posting I certainly didn't want to overplay our freedom of speech, I agree with you that it is always at risk although at least we have some semblance of free speech.

I am not an expert on Muslim countries and I wonder if any have a relatively free speech similar to ours. I certainly also don't want to be aligned with people who attack all Muslims and likewise I hope there are many Muslims who don't want to blame all Danish people.

Most Muslims have made a very valuable contribution to our society. I also agree with you about the Wests terrible history in Middle Eastern countries.

Kactuz :There are plenty of verses in the Bible which similarly describe terrible acts as in the Koran. So to be fair we shouldn't just post the Koran links.

SHONGA : I wasn't suggesting that we send the Muslims back to where they came from. I was hoping that those who read my post would also realise that the cartoons weren't as offensive as other things that have happened throughout history.

Alan Bold : You ask some very relevant questions and you have every right to ask them. The history of the west is very worrying... and what we have done to the Aussie aborigine is also a disgrace... but can you guarantee that Muslims wouldn't have done similar things to them if they had found Australia first? And can you guarantee that Muslims wouldn't have acted as the West has if the shoe were on the other foot? My questions in no way excuses what we have done!

I'm against all violence and all discrimination against all people.
Posted by Opinionated2, Saturday, 11 February 2006 8:32:19 PM
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