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Abusing freedom of expression : Comments

By Syed Atiq ul Hassan, published 10/2/2006

The media has a responsibility to the on going civic development of society but not to insult and promote disharmony.

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Kaspa; you didn’t see such type articles like of “Syed” because you hardly find any writer’s story in Australian main stream publication but if you really have interest and want to get more knowledge about others and make your vision big then go and read international news publication, New York Times, Observer etc.
Posted by Malik, Saturday, 11 February 2006 12:18:20 PM
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Philo, Religion of any belief, is nothing more than a refuge for the intellectually crippled, or to put it more kindly, a refuge of the intellectually unsophisticated and a form of infantilism. So we can understand how your ilk can't see beyond the past.

We have evolved beyond all forms of repressive ideologies, so communism is not an option as is Religion. Some of us are in the 21st century, unlike those deliberately and violently hanging on to their fearful illusions. There is no other option, Religion want control, Christians as well. Look at the current debate on abortion, sexuality, ID, religion in schools. It takes a lot to get any reforms through, as those in power are so infantile they cling desperately to their outdated fears.

Last century there were a number of attempts to rid some societies of Religion, because of the despotic control they had. They failed, but that doesn't mean we should go backwards to the past. We need to go forward and create a society that is free of these infantile and outdated barbaric delusions, without losing our freedoms and individuality.

Because of the huge amount of weight that Religion has upon the powers that be, it looks like we will have to enter another huge war until the religious are reduced to levels where they can be pushed into their kindergarten churches and kept there., Then they can express their illusionary joy and leave us to get on with living responsibly.

That may mean the death of billions in the end, but I bet Philo, the religious will not take a backward step to relieve this country of that threat, no you will press on blindly until its all gone. No help from your god either, I guarantee that.
Posted by The alchemist, Saturday, 11 February 2006 12:42:25 PM
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Malik, you assert that the writers on the forum are not talking to the issue. This is evidently false, as all but very few are addressing the issue of whether free speech should be curbed by legal means to avoid hurting the sensibilities of Islam.
Of course, they may also add some comments of their own, according to their own political/religious views.
You also state that you decided not to comment on the forum because “as there are only same few people, who keep talking nonsense against, multiculturalism, against Islam, Muslim and other non-White race….”
And yet, here you are having your say.
You are perfectly entitled to have your say, and if you have any valid argument, put it to the test of scrutiny by the other posters.
I did a count of the posters and their reaction to the proposition made by Syed. 33 posters were against him, 4 had a position which put them half –way on his side, 2 were completely off-topic, and 3 are for Syed’s position.
That is just my own assessment, others may come to slightly different conclusions, but I’m willing to bet, not much different.
Posted by Froggie, Saturday, 11 February 2006 12:43:12 PM
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Kaspa and other prejudiced members; do you know

1)Who initiated 2nd World War, who killed millions of Jews… who, ever used atomic bomb on innocent people, I am sure you will not find any Muslim names there but may find people of perhaps same faith as you have…..
2)Who hired paid-agent from Arab land after First World War and made them Sheiks to rule the poor people once for ever and steeling their oil resources – I am sure you will not find any Muslim name there.
3)Who first made millions of Jews homeless then invaded lands of Arab in Palestine and populated with Jews – I am sure you will not find any Muslim name there
4)Who colonise the entire world, India, South Africa even USA and treated the natives as animals – “Dogs and blacks not allowed” I don’t think these rules have ever been used in any Muslim State except by the western empires..
5)Who provided dangerous weapon to Saddam Hussain to kill the people of Iran and Iraqis, 10 years then bombed Iraq… destroyed the entire infrastructure and now killing innocent citizens everyday on the name of providing them peace
6)Unfortunately the history is so long and so dark I can write pages and page
Posted by Alan_Bold, Saturday, 11 February 2006 12:52:24 PM
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Well, perhaps I should have said "organized" religion. I am NOT an atheist, but I'm damned sick and tired of hearing arguments of "My god's better than your god". Religion is used, and those in a position of authority in religion use their possitions for nothing more than maintaining their position and telling people what to and what not to do, and most often, these proscriptions end up being "do as I say, not as I do". The prohibitions imposed by many religions on their followers are capricious, illogical and, in many cases, contrary to human nature. To try to impose those same prohibitions on nonbelievers is even more fatuous. It seems to me that the people who had the best conceptions of deity were the classical Greeks and Romans, since their gods were fallible and capricious. Any being as powerful as the biblical god is so far beyond the plane of human existence that we are beneath his/hers/its awareness. But wait! The bible has god declaring "I am a jealous god". Isn't this a human emotion? Shouldn't god be beyond jealousy? Monotheistic religions have a vested interest in persecuting other faiths simply because their authority rests in one particular version of an exclusive deity. I am the ultimate arabiter of what I choose to believe regarding spiritual matters, and I'm not going to let any imam, bishop, pope or guru tell me what I am supposed to believe.
Posted by Freticat, Saturday, 11 February 2006 12:53:28 PM
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Many of you repeatedly suggesting throwing out Muslims and other non-whites from this land – Why? Because you came first here
- My parents and grands parents, atleast did not come in this country as a convicts
- My parents, atleast, didn’t the eliminated thousand years old aborigines culture and pet their children as animals
- I am in this country as a professional migrant and the day I landed I served this country utilising my skills and talent which I brought with me from my motherland

I am very happy to see that first time one person from I think Muslim background write on this forum who has raised the issue to ban on blasphemous stories and cartoon not only against Mohammed but Jesus, David, Budda etc but some of you instead of appreciating his balanced approach abusing him just because he has a background which you don’t have you. – Come on lets have big heart and mind and treat the people what they deserve and keep vision to accommodate other culture, faith and religion the way these poor native aborigines gave our parents opportunity to enjoy on this land once for ever…
Posted by Alan_Bold, Saturday, 11 February 2006 12:58:20 PM
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