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The semantics of abortion : Comments

By Helen Ransom, published 9/2/2006

When does human life begin? A discussion on RU486, abortion and choice.

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Nice article. Womens' rights begin in the womb (the right to be born). If many of the arguments for abortion were used to justify infanticide, we'd lock such women up for murder.

What Australia needs to do:
1) If you don't want to get pregnant, don't have sex, or use protection but beware of the possible consequences.
2) Have more sex education for young people talking about the physiological and psychological issues of sex. Also, don't allow preteen magazines to preach on the joys of abortion without giving mention to some of its more negative side effects (as I've seen).
3) When a woman is pregnant, have laws forcing men to have as much to do with it as the women (e.g. shared parenting laws are good). Also, employers should have more incentives to offer maternity leave. Refusal to do so could perhaps be discrimination?
4) For all those religious people who argue against abortion, for goodness sake, set up more counselling services, practical aid, babysitting services to help women who end up with unwanted pregnancies. Develop genuine friendships with women in these situations and pray with/for them.
5) Its really hard to adopt a child from Australia. Set up more adoption services.

Also, I really liked how you established what therapeutic goods are and what they aren't.
Posted by YngNLuvnIt, Friday, 10 February 2006 2:48:01 PM
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There are any number of drugs available that can cause death yet we haven't handed control of their availability to one individual.

The reason this is a big deal is that it's happening on Abbott's watch. Vanstone voted for the bill. What if she took over as health minister? RU486 available, no arguments, no questions.

Perhaps the biggest change for the anti-choice people, it would be much harder to know who to bully at the doctor's surgery.
Posted by chainsmoker, Friday, 10 February 2006 3:57:57 PM
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YngNlvnIt

Mate I'd vote for you.

You're impressive.

Women's rights begin in the womb is brilliant!

I love it.
Posted by Martin Ibn Warriq, Friday, 10 February 2006 8:24:02 PM
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"Women's rights begin in the womb is brilliant!"

It certainly is Martin, for as you should know, claiming
to be intelligent, an organism is not a woman!

So protect women, when they become women, not when
they are dividing cells. A piece of steel is not a car,
its a potential car. Did they teach you nothing at University? :)

At the end of the day, of the 400 or so potential organisms that a woman can produce, she has to decide which 1-3 she can not only
carry to birth, but also provide the resources for the next 20 years.
Thats a huge decision, affecting her life in dramatic ways, it should be her choice alone to make that commitment, as it will also be her responsibility.

Those preaching abstinance as a solution, should note its dismal failure around the world. Firstly sex is not illegal. Secondly lets look at the long long long list of Catholic priests who cannot even stick to that commitment. I rest my case :)
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 10 February 2006 8:56:02 PM
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Yabby are you Catholic?

I'm beginning to wonder whether you're on our side. You're doing the job of spreading the faith better than I could. I might have underestimated you. You're either very clever or particularly stupid.

I mean all of your arguments are so pathetic you're either a glutton for punishment or you're deliberately encouraging the explication of Christianity, which looks something special indeed to warrant such a sustained tirade.

If latter is the case, careful; you're being so rabidly anti Catholic even a dedicated Satanist might start to get numb.

Anyway, keep up the good work.
Posted by Martin Ibn Warriq, Friday, 10 February 2006 9:29:21 PM
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Along with bandaids, package RU486 in all Barina first aid kits, include as promotional items with sanitary products, and as sealed samples in girly magazines. Wait, why am I telling all of you - these are my future marketing ideas.
Posted by Seeker, Friday, 10 February 2006 10:18:25 PM
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