Posted by me Sunday, 12 February 2006 2:46:33 PM

“Actually it is usually the pro-life brigade who rant on and bring up inappropriate analogies to death, genocide ( ah that is one I have heard before, the genocide of abortion and comparisons to Pol Pot).”

Posted by Meg1, Monday, 13 February 2006 11:06:16 PM

“When society judges any human as 'more (or less) equal than others', we end up with such atrocities as 'Pol-Pot' or 'Hitler's human cleansing'”

All I can say “FIGJAM”

Let us consider the Pol Pot / Hitler scenario versus abortion
Two important differences

1 Abortion is about one person, the mother, making an individual decision based on her own individual circumstances.
In the instance of Pol Pot / Hitler, the victims were one group of people who were euthanised by the processes of the “state”.

That a lot of separate pregnant women make individual choices to abort is entirely different to one person or group of people making a single decision to kill a large number of other people.

2 Separation
The pregnant woman who aborts is dealing with an embryo /foetus which is supported by the resources of her own body and which is not a separate entity.

Hitler / Pol Pot had no such physical attachment to their victims. The Jews and Gypsies were separate individuals with no dependency on the bodily resources of Pol Pot or Hitler.

So thank you Meg1 for your demonstration of how predictable (= devoid or originality) the Pro-Life arguments are.

I will now point, out under German law, enacted in June 1943, any Aryan woman found guilty of having an abortion would be executed.

Thus, I could suggest, Pro-Life hold societal views close to those of Hitler under which abortion is illegal.

Anyone else want to make similar asinine, fatuous and contemptible comparisons?

Yabby – don’t look for reason in a pro-life argument, there is none, only dogma.
That same dogma brought about the Spanish Inquisition (ah another example of an attempt at extermination of the Jews and another parallel between the fund managers of Pro-Life and Hitler)

Col Rouge,

I reckon your arguments are getting spuriouser and spuriouser. (Apologies to Alice)

"Let us consider the Pol Pot / Hitler scenario versus abortion
Two important differences"

"1 Abortion is about one person, the mother, making an individual decision based on her own individual circumstances.
In the instance of Pol Pot / Hitler, the victims were one group of people who were euthanised by the processes of the “state”."

"That a lot of separate pregnant women make individual choices to abort is entirely different to one person or group of people making a single decision to kill a large number of other people."

Abortions are still murder if they're done late enough in pregnancy. No amout of intellectualism can change that fact.

"2 Separation
The pregnant woman who aborts is dealing with an embryo /foetus which is supported by the resources of her own body and which is not a separate entity."

What happens about midterm in pregnancy when the child starts kicking inside its mother? I'd put it to you that it's a separate entity then.
Even before this time, the evolving baby's body is growing and making physical and spiritual connections. By killing the baby, the mother is truncating the developing body of the child. However you spin it, Col, abortion is a pretty sad situation.

It’s quite amazing how rednecks and their farm produce, parrot the 1970’s thought in such high contrast black and white. It’s a shame that so many will not enter this century (foeti included).

It's also sad how, in its desire to not offend anyone, society is content to just allow everything, good and bad, to blur together.

Dear Helen,

In todays climate [very iffy] mother and baby are consumers, the more the merrier for vested interests, particularly in Western countries, such as Australia and USA. The Right to Consume All.
The unevil right/eous humans of these countries support the murder of human life, including babies, in countries outside their own borders.
The Bush "war on terror" does not provide "Right to Life" for the embryo in the mother's uterus in Iraq. The "war on terror" is also causing the abortion of human embryos.
The end to life of the unnutured embryo, is common place in Africa and elsewhere, the West turns a blind eye.
"It is time" for Australians to think more, than consume more, whatever belief system they possess

"Law and regulation do not change women's determination to terminate an unwanted pregnancy … they just affect the safety and quality of the experience.”

Lyn Allison