Skippy “My point was that you’d make a terrible triage nurse.”

Most likely, I would make a terrible nurse of any sort.

However, your analysis of me, my motivations and
“conception of a “redneck”” (ah is that a proposal or is there hidden meaning in Skippy’s Freudian slip) would suggest in

the psychologist or psychiatrist / patient relationship, avoid sitting in the chair, you, obvioulsy, being qualified only to lay on the couch.

Arjay well said.

Rainier “but I cannot provide the will to learn” – that admission explains everything we need to know about you.

Listening to the Phillip Adams program last night I learnt that the picture purporting to be of Muhammad with a bomb as a turban has been misinterpreted. Its a local comment about an offensive Danish resident Mullah who is preaching mayhem and about to suffer the same fate as his counterpart in the UK. Its an appropriate reaction to his comments and its his likeness NOT that of Muhammad. But then most people that are complaining haven't seen or understood what was behind the cartoons.
Try as I may I cannot even imagine anything anyone could use to satirise me or mine that I would cause me to react the way the Muslim community has. Is this genetic? One of us definitely has too much or too little of the hormone that overdoes the anger. perhaps its natures way of controlling populations?
Storm in a teacup

Fellow Human,

“I can at least say that Muslims don't spend time talking or bagging other religions. Get a life”

What planet are you calling from? The very reason people are concerned here is because (1) what you say is unfortunately false, and (2) some like you deny this for no apparent reason other than that the protagonist is Islamic—that makes you irrationally tribal.

See http://www.jcpa.org/text/Christian-Persecution-Weiner.pdf, for one of the more recent examples in Palestine.

In light of the modern context of Christians being driven out of the middle-east, etc., the fact that you even try to refer to the remote past (the beginning of the Quran) for support of Muslim tolerance, and moreover that you imply it is in “Self defence and territory defence”, only betrays your unenlightened tribalism even more.

Are you a Muslim?

Rather than acknowledging the crimes committed against all humans, you only see those experienced by Muslims (and not those committed by fellow Muslims, e,g, Lebanese on Palestinian refugees). Europeans have managed to get beyond that crap. Is that why we’re hated?

Please demonstrate the difference between an argument and an assertion. You’re a health hazard mate.

Mr Man,

Why would you list these detestable biblical quotes when in the present climate they are utterly irrelevant?

The majority of today’s practising Christians are far more charitable than those quotes reflect. Such a blatant anachronism betrays your denial of the present-day reality that Islamic rednecks have a tangible, concrete impact on those around them.

Your pointing out that “the bible is just as bad (and good I suppose) as the Quaran” is based on the unsupported assumption that many posters here irrationally criticise practising Muslims for no other reason than that they are Muslim.

We do not think like that in this country mate; we have what are called “reasons”! Like Col Rouge, you mistake the effect (fair criticism) for the cause (Islamic rednecks).

Col Rouge,

Still no answer mate. Try a little harder.

Rainier,

Care to reply to my earlier query of you? Do you read these posts?

Salam,
I am dissapointed that you didn't take the time to research the origins and original intent of the cartoons.
In reference to your statement "---do you really think that this is really something most Muslims would find utterly hilarious---"
I was actually hoping that the reasonable rational part of the Muslim community would understand this was targeted at the radical extremist element within Muslim community. So the answer is "yes" I would expect most of the Muslim community to laugh at the extremists. Frankly I find it a bit scary to think that you seem, by your response, to count yourself as part of the community this is targeted at. Surely there is a difference?

Skippy,
I believe i did answer your original question, it was no i would not 'understand' the Cronulla events as having the same causes as the reaction to the Danish cartoons. Cronulla had other sets of circumstances that should be analysed on their own. (If you want to know what i think those causes were then i'd be happy to discuss my opinon but perhaps it would be better to do so in the relevant forum). Regarding the cartoones, after reading some of the other posts above i have learnt that there were several underlying factors to the reaction. The post by All- above was particularly informative regarding that nasty piece of work Abu Laban who has been quite busy behind the scenes. There's also a good opinion piece in the Age today: http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/the-real-truth-behind-the-cartoons-fury/2006/02/08/1139379569017.html
But now you are asking a different question of whether i would apply the methodology of "looking for underlying reasons and trying to understand the real causes beneath a problem" to the Cronulla events. My answer to that is most definately yes.

As for your question about Nazism, my answer is yes you are allowed to blame whoever or whatever you like for the way Hitler’s Mein Kampf is practically interpreted.
Personally, i blame Hitler for writing it, i blame those who read it for reading it, and i blame those who carry out atrocities in its name for carrying out atrocities in its name.

Matthew S,
Maybe you can ask Ms Zrieka yourself, and instead of answering for her and assuming what she'll say you could listen to her answer and then form your conclusions. You don't really need us "new-age moderates" to do that for you.

Col

Loved the stats you provided on the Abortion issue 66,000 odd perfectly legal and traditional protests compared to 3500 odd illegal acts. Now that ratio makes what sort of point:

Let's raise a few. Most people who are anti abortionist don't express their views in public. So overwhelmingly anti-abortionists don't break the law. The same applies to those that do express public views.
Not all anti-abortionists are Christian. You don't provide a breakdown of the religious beliefs of those perpetrating violent and illegal acts, yet you claim they are acts of christians? I have no doubt some are but you've just labelled all anti-abortionists Christian and supporters of violence...Hmmmm where have I seen that logic before?

In my opinion the overwhelming actions of anti-abortionists are peaceful and they tend condemn publicly all acts of violence. Now assuming there is more than one person attending each protest or blockade then your statistics clearly support my position.

Thanks Col