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Cartoons used as an abuse of power not humour : Comments

By Salam Zreika, published 7/2/2006

Salam Zreika argues that publishing offensive material under the guise of freedom of speech is depicable and rude to Muslims.

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Keith, who are these 'anti-abortionists' you are talking about? In future, please use the more accurate term 'Pro-foetus activists'

Or 'anti-choice terrorists'
Or just plain old 'anti-women.'
'Foetus-lovers' is also acceptable.
Posted by KRS 1, Thursday, 9 February 2006 10:51:57 AM
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here is a link which shows the cartoons printed in an Egypitan newspaper in October 2005! Not a squeak then!

http://egyptiansandmonkey.blogspot.com/2006/02/boycott-egypt.html

This whole thing was concocted by Abu Laban a Danish welfare sucker who campaigned for this period of hate. No need to mention the 3 added fake cartoons.

The whole world is laughing at these monkeys burn down consulates - they need to start with the Egyptian one and maybe behead the Egyptian newspaper owners
Posted by magic jess, Thursday, 9 February 2006 11:12:33 AM
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Saw a very very unny poster at one demo. A woman holding a sign which said

'Behead all who say Islam is violent'

Yep freedom of expression is so good that it isn't only encouraged, sometimes in the Mid East it's even orchestrated.
Posted by keith, Thursday, 9 February 2006 11:18:59 AM
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Hi GZ Tan, (& Skippy)

I guess the difference between us is that I lived in the Middle East in the middle east and Africa (and in Islamic countries) for 29 years of my life. Obviousley you just googled it.

Practical proof is that Islam accepts other religions are simple facts:

- Christian Arabs and Jews, lived in majority Muslims country for the last 14 centuries. Even when your peaceful religion was killing everyone else in Europe, Muslims protected Christian Arabs from the crusades.
- I won’t use Turkey as an example but a majority Muslims country (like Egypt) kept its 15% Christian’s population, its churches and synagogues. In fact, Egyptian Christmas is a public holiday (7th January) in this country with 60Million Muslims.
- In my youth I went to a Catholic school and education and most of my friends until today are those very same non-Muslims you keep referring to.

Wahhabi teachings you refer to are rather a political movement. Wahhabism is non-mainstream Islam and its misleading to paint it otherwise.

“What happens to a Muslim marrying a non-Muslim” I don’t know, what happens? I was married to one!.

What happens to a Christian Arab marrying a Muslim? You don’t want to know!
What happens to a Jewish girl dating a Muslim in Israel? Why do Christian Nigerians carry machine guns?

You are mixing tribalism with religion.

Fuhrer Fried Rich,

One word Adolph: “Liviticus”!
You are not any better than wahabbies or Taliban, the crescent is replaced with a cross but the content is the same: ugly..wicked.vicious, indeed!

Auf Vieder Zen,
Posted by Fellow_Human, Thursday, 9 February 2006 1:45:51 PM
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Fellow_Human,

I sense your anger and your sword is drawn, it would seem. Your true nature is showing.

Good! Now why don't you reference comment in the posting immediate before yours- 'Behead all who say Islam is violent' and rationalise why this is acceptable in Islam. If not then what do you do to educate your fellow Muslims.

And do I need to boast of having lived a good part of my life in an Islamic state? What presumptous arrogance you've got.

Still you're missing the subtleness of my argument and lost on a big picture, saying things like "Christian...lived in majority Muslims country for the last 14 centuries", "...Muslims country (like Egypt) kept its 15% Christians population".

As if you are ignorant of the fact that once upon a time there were NO Muslim, none! So please enlighten us what nice things Muslims had done to grow to be the majority, and to be in a position to boast a moral highground of keeping a 15% non-Muslims population, as a shining example of Muslim tolerance.

Further you're so simplistic in your outlook as to imply that Egyptian Christmas is another proof of tolerance in Islam.

I know very well what happens between Muslims and non-Muslims.

I can already see through a person who will not get the big pictures.

Fellow_Human, the difference between us is that you are a narrow-minded hypocrite.
Posted by GZ Tan, Thursday, 9 February 2006 3:49:23 PM
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GZ Tan, are you making a special effort to demonstrate your ignorance? If so it is succeeding. Have a read back through some of Fellow Humans posts, take a scattering over the last six months and then see if you have the personal courage to apologise to him for your ignorant villification.

Fellow Human has spoken out against the excesses of extremists from his own religion. He gives praise where he believes it is deserved, he is notable for the courtesy he uses when expressing himself on this site. From what I have seen of posts from both of you FH is a far better human being than yourself, one who you could learn a lot from if you put aside your narrow minded hypocritical bias against his choice in religion and pay attention to what he has to say. And no I'm not muslim.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Thursday, 9 February 2006 4:01:53 PM
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