Fellow_Human,

You are losing your cool cuz.

I have to admit your courage and stubbornness to continue to argue when the overwhelming consensus here and everywhere is against islam.

You are either:

1. Too stupid to see and understand what a sham your so called religion is
2. Well paid by some sponsor to propagate and con more victims to your sect
3. Absolute moron with half a brain really believing you’re on a mission from Allah.
4. Have a very thick skin and get your kick out of being abused
5. Don’t have the courage to flee the cult
6. Believe islam is the supreme revelation and the answer to humanity
7. Barbaric and blood thirsty like your alleged prophet
8. Too coward to join the street gangs or face the real world

What will it take for you and others like you (who can read and write) to see the lies that are trapping you?

Can’t you honestly detect the fraud of it all? How stupid can one be?

If it’s true that you now live in Australia (?) this could be your only chance to break the chains and be free like the many thousands that are just doing that daily. But maybe your turn hasn’t come yet.
Salam.

RObert,
Enlighten me if FH's spoken out against extremism, to Muslims. (Which I doubt)
As if I need someone reminding me to cool it. That's okay, I'll try being less aggro.
That said, I've NEVER intended being nice on such topics. May you be impressed by nice fella. Can't help if people are deceived as soon as they're charmed...Happens ALL THE TIME. I apply logic and reasoning. Being honest truthful is EVERYTHING. Being nice is IRRELEVANT.

Fellow_Human,

By your reasoning, existence of a single Christian among Muslims is an even stronger proof Islam is tolerant. Wow, he even gets a Christmas holiday when everyone else has to work or show up in anti-US protests. What a tolerant country that lucky Christian lives in. Will they accept another Christian migrant please?

Ever occur to you people have the conviction of NOT to be a Muslim? Which explains why there's a sizable non-Muslim population where I came from. We'd not be converted. NOT that Islam is tolerant.

Why didn’t they kill us? How simplistic is your analysis? Truth is Muslims there wish all of us vanish in thin air if they could help it. Unfortunately they've to put up with us whilst we bear the bullying and narrow-mindedness, largely submissively in silence. Not converting or killing us does NOT equate to being tolerant.

A person with so many postings has yet to grasp the very essence of 'tolerance'. That says a lot about you.

You seem intend on presenting a rational, gentle front perhaps quite consciously, as a cover for Islam, in a non-Muslim forum, to neutralise Islam's negative image.

To me, such are deceptive pseudo-intellects, the kind that chances upon the psychologically vulnerable, intellectually feeble, to lead them into Islam.

Ever confronted Muslims who 'Behead all who say Islam is violent' in an Islamic forum? If not, WHY NOT?

Or is it more fulfilling to bring someone in this forum across to your side of persuasion, justify Islam as a 'true' religion because millions of converts every year 'cannot be wrong'?

The lure of Allah indeed... But you ain't fooling me.

NEW CARTOON
I saw an interesting cartoon this morning... related to the Haj where the pilgrims all throw rocks at the fake 'Satan'... (some wall or something)..well in the cartoon, they were all throwing stones at....
a giant PENCIL :)

F.H. I think you might need some healing ointment of kind words from me now.. Coach has kinda blasted you there.. I even feel sorry 4 u.

I think your post missed a few important points.

CONVERSION. Many convert in Islamic societies to
a) Avoid Jizya
b) Persecution from ratbags in the community.
c) Recognition as a '1st' class citizen rather than a 'dhimmi'.

In the West, even Australia, many convert for sincere reasons.. unfortunately, like Malcolm Thomas current ICV chairman, they didn't really know much about that faith b4 converting. They only saw the 'sugar coated' version which you are usually seeking to share with us.

By the time they have committed their minds to Islam, they will then 're-arrange/re-interpret/re-process' the negative side of his life in terms of their new mindset which cannot accept anything negative about him.

Thats the basic psychology of it. Hence, we are always pointing out the full picture here, so people enquiring about Islam do not consider only a partial picture of this man.

Annnnnnyway.... you have been experiencing quite a few verbal knocks here lately.. your robustness is either admirable, or paid for :)..nah..just kidding.

Yabby.. I need to 'deal' with you also :) you are mentioning quite a bit about 'all religions' and pointing out stuff which justifies your own entrenched and 'carnal' (by your own confession) desires. Don't be blind mate.. you cannot hide behind the foibles of 'The Church', Jesus is as real today as he was when he gave the blind man sight and raised Lazarus from the dead.. and we will all meet Him one day.
Hopefully as Saviour, rather than.....

I think its entirellly irelevant whether overwhelming opinion here is against Islam. The problem is not Islam, but the cartoons.

Salam Zreika is right that this was not good kind humour, this was ofensive.
Only one thing - this WAS freedom of press, and nobody can or want alter it according to some religious rules. In Europe is quite normal to ofense christianity and the editor can have " a far greater responsibility towards this global community than they think", but they have freedom not to thing in this political way. I cant comprehend that journalist can write " the banner of the freedom of speech".
After all, the Muslims have fredom to express their protest, exculiding the vandalism.
Nobody should be expected to consider whether some religious, political or other group would feel hurt by his expresion.

GZ Tan, I have not read it recently but Fellow Human does have a Blog which appears to be targetted at young muslims and which last time I looked at it was promoting a moderate line and speaking out against wrong doing (by muslims) and from what I could see attempting to provide some common ground for understanding. He has been willing to express is abhorence of extremist behaviour both on this site and as far as I can tell within the muslim community.

As I suggested earlier have a read through a sample of his posts over time, the message is consistant and remarkably gentle in the face of some very nasty attacks. I regard him as a man of good character who those of us non-muslims who are not seeking global conflict should encourage and support in his efforts. The muslim faith is a fact of life in Australia like it or not, nothing we do or say will make all the muslims go away. Once that is understood we have to decide what to do about it.

R0bert

How can we trust or believe any pagan moslem - read their book. Now ALL! islamics believe in that book and that book [a terrorist's hand book]talks constantly about the death and destruction of all unbelievers. Their preachers even here in Australia have said that democracy is unislamic. It has been further stated that the aim of moslems is brutal, bloody, heathen, merciless sharia law here in Oz.
Added to this, and I have read it and posted it in the past, is that islamics are allowed to even commanded to lie to unbelievers, this includes abrogating treaties - like the Oslo accord - until the moslem is strong enough to overpower them.
How in blue blazes with the best of intentions and love for individual moslems - though not the ugly heathen religion - can we believe them? Their nice peaceful words sound wonderful but are they 'having a lend of us'?
Everywhere there is islam there is death, destruction, extreme poverty, unbelievable squalor, murder, including the very ugly primitive "honour?" killings, as well as brutal dictatorships accompanied with extreme corruption.
BY THEIR FRUITS YOU SHALL KNOW THEM. Not by their wonderfully sweet and beguiling words. numbat