Gee wiz Mr Man, I thought you would be smart enough to read the front cover of the Book, after all, it was written in the Middle East, Way before Islam came on the scene. Where do you think the Quran came from? If you had read chapter nine of that link on the other thread, you could answer that question mam.

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I know the Quaran was derived from the bible. By bringing this up you've raised another aspect of what I was trying to say.

I was merely making a point to those who constantly condem the Quaran, that the bible is just as bad (and good I suppose) as the Quaran.

Mr Man you have pointed out the major difference between Judaism/Christianity and Islam i.e the nature of the Revelation.

Read The Asia Times Online Journalist 'Spengler' (nom de plum). He explains with the help of Pope Benedict XVI how historic contextualisation cannot occur within Islam as we have it now.

'When Even The Pope Has To Whisper'
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/others/spengler.html

A summary would be: Judaism/Christianity - God uses his imperfect creatures to reveal himself. There must be a person from which the veil is lifted for there to be any revelation. A person is a product of their environment so their faculties will limit the revelation.

In Islam the Qu'ran is alleged to have been dictated to Mohammed by the Angel Gabriel and a copy resides in Heaven. Nothing about love of God for his creatures - just submit - here are your orders OBEY. The revelation is perfect and timeless in Islam. And thats that folks!

Anyway Spengler explains it better.

ARISTOPHANES ONCE WROTE, "YOUTH AGES, IMMATURITY IS OUTGROWN, IGNORANCE CAN BE EDUCATED & DRUNKENNESS SOBER, BUT STUPID LAST FOREVER".

RESPECT SHOULDN'T BE GRANTED UNTIL IS EARNED

MUSLIM YOU DEMANDED RESPECT. SHOW US FIRST THAT YOU DESERVED.

Reading the posts here make me feel at ease.

That there are so many of you all out there that are logical, rational, and have intelligence, is helpful. I sometimes lay awake at night furious about all the crap going on, especially related to Islam, how our political leaders are cowards by not confronting Australian Islamic leaders, many of whom have made statements directly supporting Islamist terrorism.

Salam Zreika, like many Muslims, simply doesn't listen. Critical thought is something intrinsic to western culture, and sadly, Islam seriously lacks in this department.

This isn't about a cartoon, proof of this is how the rabid zombies have been burning flags of all western nations. What I'd like to ask Zreika is:

Do you, as a Muslim, support Sharia? I feel that before one engages in discussion with Muslims (even though the Muslims who write here don't seem capable of critical debate) one must know where they stand on Sharia.

When I know a Muslim supports Sharia, I see a Swastika around that persons arm. Most who post here know about the utter barbarity of Sharia, and for Muslims to see it as divine, to be brought to the world, is nothing short of cancerous fanaticism.

It's ironic that some Muslims say learn about Islam before you condemn it, given that a few years ago I was naive and thought it was like Christianity. When I found out about Mohammed's character I didn't believe it at first.

As an ex-Muslim guest on the John Safran show a few weeks back said, "when you remember that Mohammed was a murderer, paedophile, caravan robber, and took 19 wives as well as endless captive slaves from raids, what do you expect his followers to be like?"

Sadly, what else can one say to that?

Publishing so called offensive material is not the problem. The problem is the reaction by the moronic moslems worldwide. Sooner or later the West has to start doing something about the vermin that start trouble because it's obvious that the followers of islam don't want peace.

Europe used to be a magnificent destination for a holiday. Luckily Friedrich took a holiday there when it was relatively moslem free. I'm so glad I went to Germany when it was a clean and beautiful place. People have told me what the invaders have done to it. They have shall we say lowered the tone somewhat. But that's what they do to every country they go to.

I'm hoping that by some miracle Jean Marie le Pen(pronounced shon jkenno and not gene)gets power. He is very unlikely to put up with the trash France puts up with now.

It's time to bring in the army in Europe. The cowards are going to blow up women and children anyway. I would order the army to shoot the morons that burn buildings. Simple. The bodies could then be flown back to where ever they came from.

This habit of marrying your first cousin over hundreds of years has got to produce God knows what. All that perversion has got to catch up with you.

Islam.Vicious.Wicked.

P.S. Who marries a 6 year old? I do hope that is not a true story. fellow-human tell me it's not true.