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Danish cartoons: Muslims in their own Dark Age : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 6/2/2006

Irfan Yusuf argues the worst way for Muslims to react to the Danish cartoons is with violence

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As I said elsewhere...

Jesus was simply a fraud who knew how to con people into getting his way. He was final caught out and paid the ultimate price for ‘blaspheming’ the then current religion.
Posted by Reason, Wednesday, 15 February 2006 1:20:34 PM
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Fellow_Human,

You just don't get it...

(1) Whether you attack anyone else is not the point. I'd attack Islam even if everyone thinks you're a 'saint'. Islam is a real and present threat to freedom and democracy. Unfortunately there are people like you whom others look to as a token of Islamic tolerance... and then be deceived.
(2) I have clearly stated I do not attack anyone else's faith. Islam is one and the ONLY one I confront. (Aren't glad you lots are special?)
(3) You misrepresented me by commenting on "split personality". I don't have a split personality. I know and understand VERY WELL love as taught by Jesus. But that's only a knowledge thing for me right now and I choose not to love. (Leave that to God to deal with me, if you may.) For me right now truth is EVERYTHING, emotion does not come into it.

I am honest and never knowingly a hypocrite. So criticise any other person if you may. I would be writing similar stuff even if I'm Atheist or Buddhist !!

So here I go again - If Mohammed were to be born in this Information Age of ours, there'd be no Islam at all. He'd just be another cult leader, a mid-east thug or a gang leader. He'd most probably be... in JAIL.

Sorry to interrupt your nice party in OLO.

(Reason can make any assertment about Jesus for all I care. I'm just a bit annoyed he has the cheek to call himself 'Reason'. I'd like some proof of his ability to think. )
Posted by GZ Tan, Wednesday, 15 February 2006 2:26:15 PM
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"Why is it that all Muslim & Islam bashing books is written by an 'Ali' or 'Mohamed' or whatever?
I mean if they 'saw the light' and left Islam, shoudn't they start by having a non-muslim name?"

Fellow Human, I think these are just common names in the Middle East.
Ali Dashti actually spent time in a Madrassa etc. He did not bash Islam as you suggest. He wrote a historical account of Mohammed's life, full of references. He asked questions which any thinking person could ask, without bashing anyone.

There is a huge difference between critical thinking and emotive rhetoric, a smart guy like you should be aware of that.

If you are interested in Mohamed's life, thats what its about.
How Islam came about, is also what its about. Critically thinking about what we believe and reading about that is a good idea, IMHO.
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 15 February 2006 4:45:02 PM
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Scout, I think I've stumbled onto a massive hoax and we have been had.

FH is apparently not the nice sane guy which all his posts make him look like, rather FH is one of the alias's for a muslim extremist who I shall call MM (for MadMuslim) who just waiting to come rampaging down my street and slaughter my Guinea Pigs (no goats here sorry) whilst yelling Muslim things which I don't understand in Arabic.

The christain fundies are aliases for the same extremist who is trying to make christainity look bad by the appalling attitudes and lack of fairness, justice etc expressed in their posts. FH is just a construct set up to allow the "nasty christains" to pick on the innocent muslim (and various others). Playing on the Aussie habit of supporting the underdog and our liking for a fair go.

It was going well but MM has been getting a bit carried away recently and some of the new characters have diverged so far from actual christain views that the hoax has been exposed. It all makes sense once you get the special insight to see it.

I think BD, Sels and Irfan and a few others with depth to their characters are real.

I could be wrong about FH, he pretty convincing and maybe really is the innocent victim of MM's attempts to discredit christainity but I'll be watching like a hawk for any unbelievable niceness.

MM, the game is up.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Wednesday, 15 February 2006 6:29:48 PM
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RObert

My goodness. I have never seen you speak like this before.

You sound really angry. What a "healthy" feeling state!

It would not surprise me in the least if we have been conned.

I know that you and BOAZ _David are fair dinkum - since I have spoken with both of you on the telephone. Both of you telephoned me because you were very concerned about my family. I was very grateful to both of you - as you individually know.

To other posters: RObert and BD are male and they are real. They have not had any phone contact with me since, but I know that they have my family's welfare at heart - even though we may not share the same views.

OK ROb - I can't stand the bait. Who is FH really? How do you know?
You can't be sued for defamation or slander since this is an anonymous forum.

Cheers
Kay
Posted by kalweb, Wednesday, 15 February 2006 6:59:06 PM
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Not sure what I'd make of all these... but suddenly and unexpectedly I feel my time here is up. I have said enough in a short time, I hope.

It's good to hear from Kalweb there is a real human touch between some... I do remember BD in my last visit, asking where I might have come from.

I may sound like a mean bastard. Believe me I always "try to be less aggro" as I told R0bert in response to his first rebuke of me... I am normally very brutal in my writings. So consider my recent posts quite mild-mannered.

This is only my second visit here, an even shorter one.

Until another significant event arouses my interest, bye for now...
Posted by GZ Tan, Wednesday, 15 February 2006 8:28:27 PM
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