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Paying the price for a crazy war : Comments

By Antony Loewenstein, published 24/1/2006

Antony Loewenstein argues 2005 will be remembered when the world woke up to the reality of the 'war on terror'.

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Fide Mae,

In all my postings I distinguished between religion and its followers. I see a lot of misrepresentation and twisting of Islamic teachings by liars who claim to follow Christianity (enough to compare a meaning translation of the Quran with their translation) and they dare to wear the religious robe and claim to be men of truth!

As a Muslim, I have to believe in all Holybooks and all prophets are equal. Islam is about the commandments and doing good, no more no less. Muslims should respect and treat well people of other religions especially the ‘people of the book’ ie Christians and Jews.

That’s all. Comparing religions is a luxury you can afford but I can’t.

Peace and good week end.
Posted by Fellow_Human, Friday, 27 January 2006 4:00:39 PM
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FH, you say:

>>As a Muslim, I have to believe in all Holybooks and all prophets are equal. Islam is about the commandments and doing good, no more no less. Muslims should respect and treat well people of other religions especially the ‘people of the book’ ie Christians and Jews.
That’s all. Comparing religions is a luxury you can afford but I can’t.<<

1. You believe in all holy books but not in their contents (you don’t read them). If you did you will know how your religion is alien to the other revelations of the true God and His prophets.

2. All prophets are not equal. Mohamed is a self proclaimed prophet not announced in any other holy book. Jesus is not just a prophet – he is the messiah the son of God. It says so in the bible. Which book is right?

3. You mention the commandments – where are they mentioned in your book? Or is ‘doing good’ the same thing for you as having the 10 commandments that Moses received from God?

4. Speaking of Moses – how come in all the (27?) times that the exodus from Egypt story is repeated in the Qur’an NOT ONCE was the Passover mentioned? WHY? (I have the answer but do you?)

5. Muslims ‘should’ respect people of other religions… So why do they destroy monuments and temples that belong to other religions?

6. Comparing religions is not a luxury – a luxury is for you to enjoy and practice your own religion in freedom and democracy. I can’t say it is reciprocated in any other true Islamic country. What is your opinion on that?
Posted by coach, Friday, 27 January 2006 5:14:09 PM
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dear mr All
you use Deroy Murdock's website "husseinandterror" as a reference for the connection of Saddam Hussein and Al-Qaeda.........Murdock's "undeniable evidence" is based on the 2003 US court case presided over by Baer........the finding of "albeit barely" hearsay evidence based on the "beliefs" of an ex-CIA director and a "expert" from the right-wing Republican "think-tank" the American Enterprise Institute (yes the one with Lynne CHENEY as senior fellow), and the Feb 2003 UN speech to the UN by Colin Powell..yes that one.........
mate, if you want to be taken seriously, try harder
Posted by justoneperson, Friday, 27 January 2006 7:29:59 PM
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Interestingly a book launch has just occured where the second in command of the Iraq air force before the war, claims in the book "Saddams Secrets" that the WMD were airlifted out of Iraq to Syria using gutted passenger air liners? Anyone heard that? Can anyone confirm?

Also a report I remember seeing that in the trolling through the millions of documents collected after the war that Iraq had terrorist camps set up. Again anyone heard that. It was a recent development?

Ta.
Posted by The Big Fish, Friday, 27 January 2006 10:49:46 PM
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Did someone mention WMD?

Iraq's WMD Secreted in Syria, Sada Says
By IRA STOLL - Staff Reporter of the Sun
January 26, 2006

[...]

The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein's air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.

The Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a new book, "Saddam's Secrets," released this week. He detailed the transfers in an interview yesterday with The New York Sun.

"There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands," Mr. Sada said. "I am confident they were taken over."

Mr. Sada's comments come just more than a month after Israel's top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam "transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria."

[...]

His book contains a foreword by a retired U.S. Air Force colonel, David Eberly, who was a prisoner of war in Iraq during the first Gulf War and who vouches for Mr. Sada, who once held him captive, as "an honest and honorable man."

[...]

Said Mr. Law, "This is not a publicity hound. This is a man who wants peace putting his family on the line."

[...]

He thanked the American troops. "They liberated the country and the nation. It is a liberation force. They did a great job," he said. "We have been freed."

He said he had not shared his story until now with any American officials. "I kept everything secret in my heart," he said. But he is scheduled to meet next week in Washington with Senators Sessions and Inhofe, Republicans of, respectively, Alabama and Oklahoma. Both are members of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

The book also says that on the eve of the first Gulf War, Saddam was planning to use his air force to launch a chemical weapons attack on Israel.

Read it all:

http://www.nysun.com/article/26514?page_no=1&access=581297
Posted by Elysium, Saturday, 28 January 2006 1:49:40 AM
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Yabby, your ignorance is truly astounding.

why do you think that luther called one of his cheif reformation papers, 'the babylonian captivity of the church'? Cos the kings of europe had taken it over for thier own uses.

As a history student I find your post as little more than the usual skimming of history prevelant in most of post-modernity. Thank God that the PM is taking this matter in hand. Perhaps if you had been taught history in a meaningful way you wouldn't be so lacking in intelectual worth?

And what does the church have to do with Christ anyhow, it is a body of sinners, imperfect in every way. Why would they adequately represent Christ. Try reading the NT and then understanding the place of the old in Christian theology. The OT is essentially a story of how bad the Israelites were at coming to terms with God, not directly about God's veiws. No I am not a literalist, as you need to be to see Christianity as a bad thing.

Get over yourself and tell me why I would ever consider taking your opinion over that of a billion and more people? And that is just at this point in time. I pray to God that your children won't be brought up in the education system that has obviously failed you!
Posted by fide mae, Saturday, 28 January 2006 3:47:45 PM
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