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Paying the price for a crazy war : Comments

By Antony Loewenstein, published 24/1/2006

Antony Loewenstein argues 2005 will be remembered when the world woke up to the reality of the 'war on terror'.

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I wouldn't take too much heart from the demise of the US.Sure the Bush adminstration haven't a clue but you don't right off their entire nation on the basis of a few idiots.

Who will take their place as the world's policeman,China,Japan, Iran or North Korea?Imagine the new world order whereby Japan could unilaterally wipe out all the whales and continue what they started in WW2.China censor the internet with the help of Google and still stifle free speech.Who would stop their enormous armies?

The US has a lot of foibles,but the last thing we need to encourage is their demise,until such time that we see a more democratic world.

The US bashers need to have a reality check.
Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:00:17 PM
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Recall comment - recall coment - stupid stupid. 2000 billion.
It was late.....
DOh!
Posted by The Big Fish, Friday, 27 January 2006 7:20:26 AM
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Martin Ibn Warriq,

Your 'evangelican Texan Missionaries' is the source of all evil.
Islamist terrorism ideology is promoted all over the web by those bastards to brand all Muslims as the same or at least imply that an average Muslim can easily become a terrorist.

Most material published you refer to is by your 'do-evil' missionaries in Africa and Asia. Even if they see Islam as their competitor or an alternative story of Jesus, they should act responsibly.

Have a look at a related topic I published on my blogspot:
www.musliminsight.blogspot.com

Peace,
Posted by Fellow_Human, Friday, 27 January 2006 8:29:39 AM
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Martin, your Spengler of course leads to a Catholic website.
http://tcrnews2.com/

You are obsessed that the Catholics will be outbred by the Muslims, you really are, so of course is the Vatican.

If Europe had 30% less people, it would probably be a good thing. The place is overcrowded now, which is what most Europeans realise.

World populaton is still increasing at 80 million a year so its not as if humanity is headed for extinction. In fact rather then head for 10 billion people, as we are doing, things would be far more sustainable with only say 3 billion. But of course the Catholic Church is more obsessed with its own surivival, rather then what is good for the planet long term.
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 27 January 2006 8:47:16 AM
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in comparing islam and christianity it might help to concentrate on a few issues.

a martyr in islam is someone who dies whilst killing to defend thier faith. A martyr in christianity is someone who dies whilst defending their faith by refusing to give it up and always in a peaceful way.

Islam means submission (slavery), and this is what it asks of all it adherants. christianity asks its adherants to be partners, that is why we do not follow some law from a society hundreds or thousands of years ago.

I would be interested to understand how even a christian community as radical (in its literalist interpretation of the bible) can be called evil, when compared with a whole religion that espouses world domination as an essential element.

Look at the lives of Christ and mohammad, one is totally peaceful, the other is little more than a plagerising war leader!
Posted by fide mae, Friday, 27 January 2006 2:58:29 PM
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"I would be interested to understand how even a christian community as radical (in its literalist interpretation of the bible) can be called evil, when compared with a whole religion that espouses world domination as an essential element."

Fide, you forget of course that the "Jesus loves you story", is a relatively new emphasis in Christianity. Read your history and your bible. The old testament, part of your holy book, is extremely violent, babies were slaughtered, women raped, nobody said boo, even God agreed.

History shows that the Catholics were fairly violent too. Heretics were burned at the stake, so were witches and anyone else that upset the church. Look at the violence in South America, as the Spanish converted the locals to Xtianity by force.

Even today, the Catholic Church tries to influence and force its agenda on people, where it can. Look at Chile or the Philipines. Look at Ireland, before people rebeled.

So Jesus loves you is a quaint slogan, but it does not represent the history of the Catholic/Christian Church.
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 27 January 2006 3:19:44 PM
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