It is sad for me to have to break my promise to you Col, but to correct my misquotations from you it must be done.

I said, "it is almost always caused by power hungry men with bald heads and big egos." The operative word being "almost".

Secondly I said "Between these men we are talking about the killing of countless millions of innocent people." I did not say that each and every one of these men killed millions of innocent people. I was referring to the collective group.

As for your comments about individuals - I think in 3000 years of recorded human history with only 300 war-free years in a world led mostly by men, I dare say my generalisation was a safe one.

I am not going to insult you or attempt to put you down as you seem to enjoy doing to me and others. Goodbye and have a lovely day.

Shonga,

I know what you mean. I have some wonderful male friends, yourself included but for the most part I find conversations with men to be very unstimulating. That's just my opinion.

Fide mae your Q&A questions have fundamental problems.

With your question 1 you ask “do the men in this forum” and “do the women in this forum” so it’s not clear whether you are asking the respondent’s opinion for themselves or their opinion of what the whole of their gender in this forum thinks.

With your question 2 the sensible answer will always be no because your question starts “Does everyone agree”… and clearly everyone doesn’t.

What if someone believed that the answer to your question 3 was b&c or a&c? You haven’t given an option for that….

To your question 4 what does largely mean? Is 51% largely?

The only problem with so-called male-bashing on TV lies in areas where this is the only place boys get the impression of men.

I reckon shows like The Simpsons are harmless fun, because I know that is not how men act. I was lucky enough to have parents who were (and still are) together. I got to see my Dad everyday, learnt the way men act etc.

I was also lucky enough to have several male teachers during primary school - all good role models.

The problem is though that this is no longer happening for the large numbers of boys. My home suburb has more than 50 per cent of young boys coming from fatherless households with just one male teacher at the local school. They have no role models, only TV dads who often look foolish and or evil.

i suppose it is a problem for the young girls too - if they don't know what a responsible man looks like and how he should act - they haven't got a hope of finding a decent one in the long run.

t.u.s

PS: Shonga - you're beloved unions haven't exactly been the best groomers of female leaders either. And no, it is not about time we had a female prime minister. We will get a female prime minister when the voting public, both men and women, elect the best person for the job, and that person just happens to have breasts and a cervix!

DR West's comments seem quite timely. Reading through some of the posts it is clear that the dawn has yet to break in the minds of the majority of men who seem to affect disinterest. It is a slow process - awakening to the continual drip drip drip of ridicule and the continued eroding of credibility that this represents. The imbalance is even more pronounced once the warning signals are recognised. The problem is - where is the value in denigration? The media's real fault is its participation in the deception and the stealth with which it is undertaken. The end result is demeaning to the process of communication and flows through to issues like infanticide(abortion) homosexuality, and more importantly - road safety.

Objection,objection your honour.The prosecutor Fid Mae is asking leading questions in her questionaire.We the defendants refuse to answer them on the grounds that it will incriminate us.

Really all this analysis and hand wringing about men.We are driven by testosterone,we work hard ,play hard and hopefully die happy.Who wants to be an lonely ageing spinster with failing health and fading memories.More male babies are born because men live dangerously.Someone is trying to create a new caring industry by appealing to our weaker side.More taxes for more useless analysis.

John howard is past his due-by-date. He is a great vocabularist and a great orator, but that is not enough any more. He is deliberately creating the fiscal and social conditions for pitting men against women in Australian society in order to divide and conqurer this nation. He dumbs us down with HECS fees and he bulldozes our electoral voices with piles of ready educated immigrants. This enables him to deceive us while he sells this country to foreigners for his own personal glory and aggrandisment.

What are we going to do about it? Are we going to fight each other like spiders in a jar while the little master looks on bemused?