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Male-bashing : Comments

By Peter West, published 20/1/2006

Peter West asks why the Australian media is so hostile to men.

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"* Have a 5 year moratorium on immigration so we can assess the true direction that multiculturalism in its present form is having across Europe and Australia."

Kaep I think thats a very bad idea, for many reasons. It seems to me that your problems in Sydney come down to Lebanese Muslims, let in by Fraser for humanitarian reasons.

Fact is that export industries outside of Sydney are screaming for more intelligent and hardworking people. Those projects, like in WA, just won't go ahead without the people. We create wealth by creating these new industries, so that you guys in the East can benefit. Its not you who is generating the exports after all.

Australia is short of all sorts of trades, welders, electricians, mechanics, nurses, fitters, etc. etc. It seems to me some of your population there have an attitude problem. They think the country owes them a living,life should be on a plate. Its not, those people have to get off their butts, learn a trade, go where the work is and make life happen for themselves.

Personally I blame the way kids are brought up. Those kids taught some discipline etc by their parents, will go ahead and do their thing. Those kids given everything, including no values, blame the whole world for their problems, when its simply their own attitude that is holding them back. Anyone can make it in Australia if they try
Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 26 January 2006 1:52:42 PM
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The media (and authorities) invariably treat female miscreants as mad or sad while males are
just bad.
The treatment of Corby is a case in point. The media are still thrashing around looking for someone of the male persuasion to blame.
Posted by Admiral von Schneider, Thursday, 26 January 2006 2:21:24 PM
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well said yabby

Unfortuately even if all australians were willing to take jobs which involve manual labour, which very few youngsters are, we would still be in trouble with our ageing population. if one in four australians are past retirement age, presumably one in four would be at school which would leave only a very few to work, and who is going to look after all those oldies, that would probably take up about a quarter of our tiny left over workforce.

The problem with the skills shortage is an ageing population more than the lazy australian (australians are known throughout the world for their hard work, but not in manual labour). The only solution to this is to stop terminating the lives of half of our children (it could be half, unfortunately like in the holocaust we are unable to find true statistics, due to fear of offending feminist nazis). If we start actually having larger families we could solve our own problems and concentrate immigration only on those who are in desperate need, not those willing to become our source of cheap labour.

slavery and legalised murder as our values, or humanitarian immigration and love of children weather born or unborn? which will it be?
Posted by fide mae, Thursday, 26 January 2006 2:22:02 PM
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The Spartans were one of the most fearsome civilizations in history – they effectively doubled their military might by deploying all women and men into their armies in times of battle. And it worked.

T.U.S.,

The overall lack of support for women’s sport means they drop out earlier than expected. This is my sixth year of teaching and, sadly I see a gradual reduction in skill from the girls I have observed over the years, which I believe corresponds (to a degree) to the lack of opportunities. The primary boys’ footy team at our school are sponsored in the budget and are getting their regular bus trips etc paid for by the school while the girls have to find their own way to their sports after school hours.

In 2001 I taught a year 3 class where, at the Interhouse athletics the eighth fastest girl was faster than the fastest boy. There was a core of very athletic girls in that class who worked off each other. Nonetheless it is now the boys from that class who are the footy heroes.

Now that we have exhausted the topic of sport, let’s move onto TV and film. At all levels – acting, producing, directing etc, males get more money. Is that discrepancy attributable to physical differences? I just wonder, since that was your argument for why women get paid less in sport.

Yabs

I do know of one industry where females are probably paid and recognised more than males – the adult industry. There is good money to be had in brothels and pornography. Although I think these things say more about the sordid character of the clients than the success of the providers.

fide mae

Just so you know, I do not support abortion. Please don’t lump me with these “feminazis” you speak of simply because I want greater recognition for our female citizens. I think my view is a reasonable one and I think most fathers would want the same for their daughters should they wish to pursue success in sport, acting, politics, whatever.
Posted by tubley, Friday, 27 January 2006 12:14:45 AM
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"If we start actually having larger families we could solve our own problems and concentrate immigration only on those who are in desperate need, not those willing to become our source of cheap labour."

Fide, its not really fair to force women to provide a cheap uterus either, if its against their will. I fully support a womans right to choose, abortion to be legal in the first tremester.

I think the reasons why people are having smaller families are manyfold, not least of which is the cost of houses these days.
For a young couple to buy a house, car, plus pay other expenses on one wage, is virtually impossible. Certainly in the cities.

Around here where I live in the country, women are popping out kids like there was no tomorrow. But of course houses are still available for 100k$. Having to face a 500k mortgage would change things dramatically. Thats the reality of babymaking these days, the figures simply don't add up when most couples crunch the numbers, particularly in large cities.
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 27 January 2006 12:49:27 AM
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Yabby,that is a very imortant point.When women were encouraged to get a career,house prices doubled with two income families,and thus families were put on the treadmill of serving the mortage and having fewer children.

Has it really made us all that happier?I seriously doubt it.We will have the most lonely generation in our history with more people living alone than ever due to lawyer induced poverty via divorce and the joy of family interaction will seem to be a distant memory of our halcyon days,as we become more pre-occcupied with career,investments,and the latest mod cons.

Can we miss what we have never experienced?Is there some void in our psyche that yearns for traditional family values of trust,respect,love and spontaeneous moments of of fun that gives us all greater insight into our common humanity.

These are the things upon which we cannot put a price.
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 28 January 2006 4:22:47 PM
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