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Race riots, multiculturalism and the gospel : Comments

By Remy Low, published 13/1/2006

Remy Low argues the multicultural dream is not dead, certainly not in the communities of God.

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I can see why so much confusion appears on the horizon, for a start Alchamist, Hitler was not a right wing Christian, fact’s are He was a Socialist, these traits are wholly due to the Ideological concepts of Marxism, with a few tweaking measures of their own.
Right wing Ideological is Garbage:attributed by the Intellectual fraud of Adorno's devisive intent-(It worked for a short period)
Perhaps reading the History of religion in full and understanding its existence would help solve some questions. But I stress Religious Concepts and not Cult mentality. After all even if those who do not agree- Christian's are the underlying principle that Laws were made in civil society. When you add some of the more professionalized logic philosophies, then you have prosperity and advancement with Civility. If you have swishy washy Philosophy of existentialism along with Serfdom and altruism's that intentionally degrades humane consciousness and destroys the Battery of Epistemology, Then Primitivism will be upon us in know time; as we are now finding out. Then you have war, Murder and power by the gun. i.e. (Looters-and Murderers rule) and the civility we have experienced for a short time ends in debortiary. It is up to the Consciousness of mankind to produce the best he can offer- not worship the worst of manipulated psychology if you want anyone to survive.
History is our only guide, and it is not a colorful one. So learn from it or we perish, and I’m not in any hurry to perish, so help here.
The Multiculturalism issue; if it is still kicking, then a needle is needed to put it out of its misery and end its divisive intent.
Posted by All-, Sunday, 15 January 2006 7:36:13 AM
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Dear Alch
the problem with addressing your posts (which is why I seldom do so) is that one would need a 'theory of everything' to cover the incredibly broad and diverse issues you hit us with in 'shotgun' mode.

I'll take ONE point, and indicate what I mean.

IRELAND. Now.. to understand that place, (alone) one needs to be aware of history.

1/ The problem:
a) Nationalism on both sides. Protestant North, loyal to England.
Catholic remainder, loyal to Irish nationalism.
b) Why ? main reason, historical resentment against English rule, over all Ireland in the past, exacerbated by Cromwells brutality during his period.
c) Particular issues: Employement and resources. The religious/political divide also means competition for available resources. Protestants controlling jobs means Catholics might not have equal opportunity, and vice versa.

POLITICAL SOLUTION is very difficult. (very) If Northern Ireland is returned to Ireland, all protestants will be an immediate and persecuted minority. Any political solution would have to involve guarantees backed up by the threat of military intervention to prevent minority persecution. Perhaps a simple recognition of the history and a dose of good will might be in order ? One thing would HELP a lot.. dispense with the 'marching season' where the Protestants annually rub the noses of the Catholics in their defeat at the battle of the Boyne.

SPIRITUAL SOLUTION. It is widely known among the Christian community that there have been beautiful expressions of christian solidarity and harmony across the denominational divide, where catholics and protestants have enjoyed blessed fellowship together. This IS the only solution most likely. Perhaps with some employment laws preventing any questions which would reveal a persons denominational standing. But even that is unlikely to work given the truth of "Its not what you know but who".
Posted by BOAZ_David, Sunday, 15 January 2006 8:14:32 AM
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OK Remy. So, when is God and his son Jesus Christ goimg to open up Heaven for Muslims, Buddhists, Sikhs, Hindus and atheists? If both of Them are still discriminating against the (immigration?) of non Christian souls to Paradise, then I guess that Jesus and God are just as big a racists as I am.

Of course, what should happen is that Heaven needs a Human Rights movement and an Anti Discrimination Board to lobby on behalf of all non Christian souls, so that everybody may enter Heaven.

When souls from all religions enter Paradise, the fun can really begin.

Up goes the Heavenly crime rate and up goes the Heavenly welfare bill. Toss in a few secular riots where the angels arrest the Christians while ignoring the other religions (God does not want to seem partial) and the Christians will wonder why they even bothered to go to Heaven when they could have gone to Hell and got the same lifestyle. The other religions can fight against Christian "dominance" and "oppression" by demanding that there should be separate "heavens" for separate religions where their separate identities can be maintained. This can be acheived by indulging in a bit of secular terrorism.

Sooner or later, Heaven won't be worth living in and all the Christains will be going to Hell for a bit of peace.

Bit like Australia, really.
Posted by redneck, Sunday, 15 January 2006 9:08:06 AM
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All, Hitler, “Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: By defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 "My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognised these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter.”

“Their sword will become our plow, and from the tears of war the daily bread of future generations will grow.” Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
Note: "Their sword will become our plow" paraphrases Micah 4:3 about beating swords into ploughshares, but his tears of war more resembles Joel 3:9-10 "Beat your plowshares into swords."

Mein Kampf, is full of his religious quotations, The swastika is a christian judea symbol

All, “Perhaps reading the History of religion in full and understanding its existence would help solve some questions.”

I agree, when will you start, then there may be informed discussion, rather than one supported by delusions

Bd, “the problem with addressing your posts (which is why I seldom do so) is that one would need a 'theory of everything' to cover the incredibly broad and diverse issues you hit us with in 'shotgun' mode.”

Isn't that what you espouse your god to be, the theory of everything. Maybe he isn't informing you too well, or you lot aren't listening, just making it up as you go along. From the state of the religious world, it sure appears like the latter.

Yabby, neither a he nor a she, just me.
Posted by The alchemist, Sunday, 15 January 2006 9:44:20 AM
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Alchemist, Your Summery is why there is conflict. Every thing you just wrote is false and misleading. I have near three hundred books and Journals on the subject, delving into philosophy through to Psychology and Archeology-Anthropology etc, out side of the Internet. The main premise of Hitler in your ideology is floored; you failed to mention, Aryan, and the Philosophy and the connotations and source of it. So what you say there is garble. And as for your Swastika , you answered your own Question; it came from India, and developed in the fire temples, via a flame on a rotating wheel. You must feel real embarrassed by now. If you were part serious in your knowledge you would have realized it before you typed anything
I see no point in discussing it any further; you obviously have no interest in finding out the truth, so I will leave it at that. Enjoy your abyss.
Posted by All-, Sunday, 15 January 2006 10:11:07 AM
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G'day everyone

Off topic but here's a site that you all may be interested in

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/

It's a blast.

It also has the King James bible.

Currently in the town of my childhood, Cronulla, just been looking at some images taken by my friends that went down to observe, some riot, the media have much to answer for.

Take care
Posted by CARNIFEX, Sunday, 15 January 2006 12:09:47 PM
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