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Race riots, multiculturalism and the gospel : Comments

By Remy Low, published 13/1/2006

Remy Low argues the multicultural dream is not dead, certainly not in the communities of God.

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FRIEDRICH,
I believe it was a pity the descriptor of the article included riots, as I do not believe he is identifying riots but a way of bringing people together.

If all Australians had to be educated in the good character traits at school and could not graduate until they demonstrated them, then we might have an answer. However this does not need to happen in a community of God that is properly doing its commission. They will be demonstrating and teaching the graces of good character.

I know the frustration we feel as at my workplace weve had Muslim Men screaming and spitting in employers faces. They are a cancer on our society that must be fixed by re-education. Perhaps a 6 month jail enforced programme for assult would be one way. But then the civil rights protesters would deny that.
Posted by Philo, Thursday, 19 January 2006 6:43:04 PM
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Nice try Alchemist, but we can debate that some other place. What does NAZI stand for? You answered the question.
Lobster moiré and a beer will do fine, not a fish eater and I refuse to drink Latté. For obvious reasons.
I did find your comment on psychologist’s use of the language interesting, in part it is true they are in general a Left leaning bunch, and it is for that, we can thank our Academics- Sociologists etc for the linguistics disaster, as well as the impending disaster within our time. Odd that, Chomsky was the master of Coercive linguistics, but you must realize not everyone with intelligent minds can be corrupted, neither by politics nor by wealth.
You would note Philosophy is the driving mechanism. Which Philosophy do you subscribe, just out of interest?
Ran, Andrew Bolt is a wogg, Ha. And if you lived in Sydney you would know we only have “TOLL WAYS” and Mafia Taxation, or was that Marxist, what ever; same result.
Posted by All-, Thursday, 19 January 2006 6:51:24 PM
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Philo on 17th January objected to a post that said a certain religion said Jews and Christians had distorted the true faith, and are like infidels, and ought to suffer punishments from the true believers.
Well then, explain these to us: 9.30:- And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away! (See also 19.88-93)
5.51:- O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people. http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/005.qmt.html#005.051
5:85:- Of all men thou wilt certainly find the Jews, and those who join other gods with God, to be the most intense in hatred of those who believe; and thou shalt certainly find those to be nearest in affection to them who say, 'We are Christians.' ...
8.12:- ... I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/008.qmt.html#008.012
Posted by johnmassam, Friday, 20 January 2006 12:37:32 AM
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All- I didn’t mean to be disrespectful not checking out your link. I suggest that if you have a point to make that you do it in your post. I haven’t the time to wait around for downloads of material without usually hasn't any academic credibility. 42 kbps here. (I often get this fuzzy feeling in my head while waiting. I then wake up with my head on the screen. BZZZZZZZ.)

I have a copy of Mein Kamph and have studied the holocaust. Hitler was a conditional socialist (thus not one at all)in that he killed you if you rejected his “one people” ideal and you were a unionist , Jew, a gay, and so on. It was also a scam to get the workers on side - a bit like Liberals’ supposed concern for the battlers.

I know good and wise socialists and I think they are a blessing to society. Socialism has been demonised to point of absurdity. It is just an ideal that has a strong emphasis on social justice and fair distribution of wealth. Ask yourself who benefits from all the attacks on socialists and the creation of this bogey man aspect on the political scene. That is correct – the wealthy, the powerful, the corporations and those who represent them. I was once asked to join; however, I refused because that ideology doesn’t mesh with my culture and beliefs - especially my belief that benevolent business owners are a good. People have different skills. Some need direction and mentoring and I have seen too many positive outcomes for people who have been employed in industry with sensible bosses. Actually, most socialists I know or have known (I’m out of that scene now) would agree with me.

One more thing for you to consider (you do consider things before accepting them - don't you). The Nationals have been fairly strong on retaining Telstra in state hands. Teachers are keen to renew public education. Now that is national socialism. Are you going to tell me all those nice farmers and teachers are like Hitler. (Challenge)
Posted by rancitas, Friday, 20 January 2006 3:34:51 AM
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Johnmassam,

Few corrections on your comment.
Please read the “Pickthall meaning translation” the verse you quote will make sense then.

8:12 actually reads “I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve”. And not ‘cast terror’. All part 8 talks about an early war waged on Muslims anyway.

The other point on Jews & Christians: please refer to an article by Dr Sherman Jackson on how safe Christian arabs and Jews lived and still live amongst Muslims. Wahabbi is a geo political Islamism and its misleading yo paint all Muslims as wahhabis.

In the Quran God defines the rights of the ‘people of the book’ and how well Muslims should treat them.
Above verse you quoted (9:30) is one of many verse that confirms monotheism with no philosophies, buts or ifs which makes sense to us. So bottom line, Christians, Jews and non-believers have the right to be well treated by Muslims
Posted by Fellow_Human, Friday, 20 January 2006 9:52:51 AM
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FH,

>>8:12 actually reads “I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve”. And not ‘cast terror’. All part 8 talks about an early war waged on Muslims anyway.<<

Sorry FH, the word is elro'b meaning terror and not just fear.

And you and I know very well that launching a war on some innocent citizens and tribal merchants of the time - is justified as self-defence and retaliation in the islamic psyche.

You can fool some of the people here but not all...
Posted by coach, Friday, 20 January 2006 10:23:35 AM
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