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Profiling a persistent menace : Comments

By Taimor Hazou, published 5/1/2006

Taimor Hazou argues removing racial profiling in NSW would be a valuable step in breaking down tensions.

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Sorry the idea is offensive to me , multiculturism we are told is Australias future , and indeed reminded of the right some have to maintain cultures not born in Australia.
If however we name some from that culture in exactly the same way we name our own people of interest to the police we are wrong?
Far from it!, some minority within a minority are racist, and some are criminal, some will never execpt that.
But it is true.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 6 January 2006 7:02:04 AM
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For goodness sake, we are all different so to pretend we all look the same and are the same is ridiculous. How can we say that we are accepting of difference when we are so hostile towards it and want to pretend that it doesn't exist.

What we need to do is to take the focus away from race by making any discrimination that is based on malice and spite against the law as opposed to discrimination having to be based on race being against the law. It shouldn't matter who you are, everybody should be protected by the law.

There are so many mixtures of race now that the Discrimination act is no longer working because you cant prove that it was because of your race because you are Australian!

What we need to do is let the children run the country, for sure they will make better choices and do a better job.
Posted by Jolanda, Friday, 6 January 2006 8:53:41 AM
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I have decided to reply to some of the posts, but am reluctant to engage in protracted debate. some of the posts are more emotive and argumentative than discussion and debate!

My only comment to (perhaps illustrate and illucidate) is that racial profiling has been shown to be defunct and a bad from of policing. This research has been done on numerous occaisions for a number of decades both here and internationally. Why can we not then expect our police forces to have current police techniques and policy.

Most of the comments focus on the 'known' gulit of Arabs, Lebanese and Middle Eastern Australians as justification for the practice. There is little reflection on how the policy works, or not, or its impact on society. Both issues I try to address.

In the end, Greeks, Maltese, Italians, and even Anglo's can be of 'Middle Eastern' Appearnace. I does not help policing. The reality is that physical descriptors, that describe a persons, hieght, skin, eye and hair color are far more effective in combating crime and achieving convictions.
Posted by taimorh, Friday, 6 January 2006 10:06:35 AM
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Race refers to ones genetically transmitted physical characteristics (thx dictionary.com). Physical characteristics are used to identify offenders. A racial profile then allows a convenient method of describing an individuals physical profile.

Taimorh, pull your head out.
Posted by HarryC, Friday, 6 January 2006 11:14:43 AM
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The only thing that will break down tensions in any Western Country would be the application of “TRUTH’ and if the “TRUTH” is far too great for some to absorb then we are doomed. One of the more likely imperialist movements is not The Anglo sphere, But the other that has been on a Colonizing spree for more than 1200 years, Correlating that philosophical corrupt to what our Elitisphere worship, Altruism and existentialism as their methodology to change Humane psychology is only a Pacifistic way the Aggressors previously Murdered and pillaged to take what they wanted. In simple word it is Criminal Intent, and Truth be known here on to everyone.

http://reactor-core.org/islamic-censorship.html

We have the Epistemology on civilizations side, Not Looters Ideology whether Islamic or Exestentialis.
Posted by All-, Sunday, 8 January 2006 5:49:34 AM
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Dear Taimor
I'm not sure exactly how far you want your 'no racial profiling' to go, but you should remember that racial profiling such as 'of caucasian (or which ever) appearance' is usually reported for crimes where there have been NO arrest, and forms the legitimate description of perpetrators and assists the public in identifying particular suspicious behavior.

I read in the papers yesterday of one incident involving 3 perpetrators, One was of caucasian, another of Asian, and another of Middle eastern appearance ALL IN THE ONE report for crying out loud.

Now that is CRUCIAL in helping the public locate a small group of men who happen to fit that racial profile and are together.

If it so happens that a higher percentage of crimes are committed by those of 'middle eastern appearance' in particular areas like South West Sydney, then its just a fact of life, as it would be for a LOWER percentage.

I'm sorry, our patience has already long expired for those using the 'victim' mentality to defend the criminal element of their ethnic group. I don't expect reporters to neglect the racial aspect in crime stories, in fact I ABSOLUTELY expect it, knowing full well many will be 'of caucasian' appearance. I don't feel my 'group' is under attack and neither should you about yours. They are simply relevant facts about criminals.

Taimor, let me ask you this. Do you expect to be treated differently by emergency services based on your religion ? If you do, then I recommend some 'loyalty' classes :) In fact, I would recommend that oaths are done ONLY on the Bible or.. as a sworn oath without any religious text. Never the Quran. I would take great exception to the Quran or Islamic prayers ever being used in our parliament or local councils. This is Australia, and we have a dominant culture, and it must be respected. Just as we would be expected to do the same in another country. All these things must be explained to would be migrants BEFORE they come here. They either accept or don't come.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Sunday, 8 January 2006 8:07:36 AM
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