Philo.Hey Philo so all the people who don't subscribe to your opinion about the so called race riots are communist.My God what a revelation,Id better turn myself in to the authority's for all of my fifth column activity's.Its just as well they didn't find out whilst I was running my own business,my staff and I may have ended up in a concentration camp.

I have noticed,just about any topic that comes up on this forum,where there has been input from conservatives, anyone with a contradictory opinion is assumed to be a commo.What twaddle.

Your blast ref the A.B.C./SBS ref political bigotry is very trite.Remember cash for comment on the commercial network?.Probably not.

For your information it was the A.B.C that exposed one of your paragons of virtue, Joe Bjelke Peterson and the corrupt and rotten to the core government in Qld.Remember "dont you worry about that"Brother!
You probably have a picture of Russ Hinze on your bedside table.

As pointed out in the post by bella donna-I will add to this.It is not the first time in history, and it probably wont be the last, the Labor Party(according to you all commos)has had a majority of the vote but failed to form government because of the gerry mander that still prevails in this country.But according to you its probably democracy in action.Yea Right!

Australians do not like overly re-actionery governments,and as sure as night follows day,our demonic John Howard will fall.The poms put up with the conservatives for a long time to be sure,but when they finally went to far they were destroyed and now hold there meetings in a telephone box.Enjoy your time in the sun.All things must pass.

Big Fish,
a. Western music per se is not banned in Iran – only certain forms of popular music
b. Christian girls – just because they are Christian – are not beheaded in Asia.
c. Religious strife occurred in Australia - Ned Kelly fought for recognition of Irish rights. “The Stolen Generations” had their religion taken from them because we had something “better” to force down their necks.
d. Yes. The experience of aboriginals during the early conquest of Australia. Settlers poisoning aboriginals with strychnine, raping their women, going out on Sundays shooting aboriginals as a sport.
e. One of the reasons African tribes fight each other today is because of European White colonial (amongst them British) landgrabbing of Africa in the 19th century.
f. While Australia does not detain millions in death camps, we have moved aboriginal people off their land, deprived them of their language and culture, broken families up – commited genocide (go read your dictionary for the exact meaning of that word)
g. See “f” regarding practice of religion.
h. Do you rely on reportage from the U.S. only – from those “embedded” reporters for your unbiased information. We can’t say today that Iraqis are free… only time will tell if they get that – democracy cannot be imposed from outside, It must grow within a nation’s culture.
i. Dear Big Fish – we are ALL immigrants to Australia – from 200 years ago to today. Economic immigrants or refugees hear about this country and want to live here. When they learn about the riots in Cronulla they may think twice.
j. Being one of the richest per capita countries in the world, it is our duty to give to the people of the world who have nothing. Our gross consumerism is not only destroying their economies, but destroying their tomorrows.
k. Your term – detained refugees – implies that they are somehow not worthy of being here. Although you don’t mention it, perhaps you mean “illegal immigrants” – well, arriving in a country, even Australia, without a passport and visa is not a crime.

some from the true left are so lost truth will never catch them.
Just this night Sky news started its 7 pm news bullitin with a story of extremely bad behavior outside a court that sent a young man to prison for his part in stealing and burning an Australian flag.
His friends took to the press and some film was shown, but censored and not shown in the news.
We Australians are not racists! some minoritys are, and we go too far in covering this up and pretending it is not true!
Leftist take note most Australians includeing this ALP member are sickened by political corecness and lies, truth will do me.

Greg Barns is pretty close to the mark. After 10 years of little Johnny it is hard not to despair. We can try and deflect it as no more than a crime issue or assert that Asia is more intolerant than us but you can't deny that this is who we are and what we are about under Howard. It is not an accident, a beat up, or the work of the Nazi's. This was flag waving, holden driving, sunscreen on the nose, went to nippers and cubs, battling Aussies looking to bash all those 'sly lebs' that 'Jonesy' was telling us about. They were Howard's battlers and that is why he won't condemn them. This is his Australia and all those people that voted for him have to own it. Relaxed and comfortable, alert but not alarmed... sleep well.

Bob B

Bella Donna,
I ask for your apology for your arrogance and spreading misinformation about the 2004 Election. Please get you facts straight. The official election results show John Howard won both first past the post and by preference:

Liberals 40.9%
Nationals 5.9%
Labor 37.7 %
Greens 7.2 %
Democrats 1.2%
One Nation 1.1 %
Others 6 %

Quote Bella, "Just a small reminder for "Philo"..... that "demonic John Howard" was NOT voted to power by a majority of Australians. In fact the Labour Party received more votes at the last election. However, due to the Liberal Party and the Nationals combining with a coalition, he gained power. If "Family First" had not been preferenced by the Labour Party, (who subsequently gave their votes to the Liberals), then little Johnny wouldn't be where he is today. Get your facts straight."

You are so misinformed that your information is laughable; Typical emotive atheistic left wing impressionist propaganda.

Philo old chap,

Along with Bella Donna dragging her knuckles along the ground with her research and some of her assertions (which rankle me no end) it is quite obvious that you yourself might be a product of the Christopher Skase school of accounting with some of your own wild assertions.

If, as you so grandly point out that the little fraud did actually gain 40.9% of the vote, there is still another 59.1% of the population that did not vote for him.

Now when I went to school, 59.1% was substantially somewhat more than 40.9%, and now that I am in my dotage, I really do know and understand that mathematics actually change over time, however I am just not able to get my head around how 40.9% is now a majority and has given him the “mandate” he so claims, so in the words of the poor racist politician from Queensland …. “PLEASE EXPLAIN…..?”