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The 'shock jocks' are in tune with the silent majority : Comments

By David Flint, published 15/12/2005

David Flint argues only a policy of zero tolerance by the police force and the courts will bring the gangs to reason.

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Iemmas seat is lakemba
Posted by meredith, Monday, 19 December 2005 6:43:37 PM
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Ev,

I know more about Germany than you ever will. Just because I'm not there and haven't been there for quite a while doesn't mean I don't know what's happening. As for being in jail,what you say is correct. Ev tell me something I don't know. If you are going to address me please tell me something new.

The answer to your question is in your question.

By the way Ev the Fatherland was much better a few years back.

Cheers
Posted by FRIEDRICH, Monday, 19 December 2005 7:14:24 PM
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All- your statement & link are both rubbish.
You, and others, take the works of Marx & Engels out of context. In their works, they respond to the prevailing conditions of the Industrial revolution of the 19th century. They, & others, proposed a pathway for the liberation of the working majority, a more or less powerless majority of the time. Marx & others could not see the possibility of ‘soft’ reforms such as Unionism. They proposed a model for ‘State’ & the only pathway they could see was forced revolution, an overhaul, violent or otherwise. They neglected the need for change of the individual. And they neglected the need for non-violence as a pathway. This is why there never has been anything resembling a true Marxist State.
Marxism should be used today as a framework for the development of society. We have come to understand the need for individual change since Satre & the 1960’s peace movement. Attitudes must change to allow for a truly equal, non-violent society. There is a global tendency toward this ‘holistic’ approach to politics & society.
Probably the most relevant & successful of the Marxist-based organisations is the Siloist ‘Humanist Movement’. Try

http://www.humanisten.ch/hi/front/index.php?lang=en

http://www.humanistparty.org.uk/links.htm

http://www.humanistmovement.org/

http://www.peacebound.com/
Posted by Swilkie, Monday, 19 December 2005 7:25:44 PM
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Friedrich,

I came here to learn Deutsch and to teach English. I certainly don't know everything about Germany. It's quite possible that you know more about Germany than me, and it doesn't bother me if you do. I'm guessing though, that I know more about Australian military history, and Australian history in general, although I wouldn't call myself an expert.

You said previously:
'Nazi Germany controlled the press for the good of the mother land.'
Here you have expressed support for the policies of the Nazi Party, which ceased to function as a legitimate political party at the end of WW2. The policies of the Nazi Party, as you may know, led to widespread chaos and destruction, including the killing and wounding of hundreds of thousands of Australians who were enlisted to fight against them.

That is why I asked a serious question if you considered yourself to be a Nazi or an Aussie, because the two are naturally not compatible.
Posted by Ev, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 12:52:16 AM
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RAncitas
sorry for 'labelling you' unfairly.. to be truthful, I tend to agree with the idea of major public institutions being in government hands, so I guess I'm a lefty too. I absolutely believe in a
-"Peoples Bank" to make finance affordable to the low income mob.
-Public education for all, though 'free' is a bit optimistic in the harsh world of dog eat dog international economics.
-Communications (Telstra at least), yep.. that too. I don't like the idea of Singtel owning a crucial satelite through which much of our defense intelligence data flows (I think)
-Corrections. The idea of "Jails for profit" is anathema to me.

I feel these things for the same reasons you do. "public interest"

The reason I am always calling us to "Christ-is that we will only ever find the level of renewal for a just selfless society when we are rightly related to God in Him. I am not for 'Theocracy' in this world, nor am I for a 'State Church', but I am very much for a 'Christian' flavor to all our cultural and social life, where government can be called to account by the Church in a 'prophetic' way, as I'm often quoting from Isaiah and other prophets who were never high on the government(KIngs) popularity list for that very reason.

Apart from Christ as our moral Anchor, we will end up with the loudest voices prevailing, and those voices will want to erect a building in the shape of a huge Penis (Melbourne) and the associated social degradation (for Israel it was the Baals and Ashteroths and 'high places') When they departed from God, they ended up with cult prostitutes, injustice, survival of the fittest, and all kinds of debauchery.

Marx might have had some (and I definitely mean 'some' not all) superfically good ideas, but he definitely failed to comprehend the human nature flaw in his theory.

SWILKIE "Sartre ? Peace movement" ? gimme a break, it was him who showed how it is irrational to do other than trample on anyone who gets in your way.(when we reject God)
Posted by BOAZ_David, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 5:05:41 AM
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Ev,

Keep up the good work.
Posted by FRIEDRICH, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 5:31:28 AM
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