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Racism in Cronulla : Comments

By Duncan Kerr, published 14/12/2005

Duncan Kerr argues Australia and the Howard Government must take steps to prevent the breakdown of our community.

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f_a_r

that may be because Anglos make up around 90 % of population.
Posted by meredith, Sunday, 18 December 2005 12:12:36 AM
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Here are the current Acts and Regulations (Legislation) in force (official NSW Parliamentary Counsel's Office website):

http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/maintop/scanact/inforce/NONE/0

Mr. Boaz, you may find the Crimes Act you are looking for under 'C', in the first section 'Acts in force'.

Also for the benefit of users of this forum, in addition to the Legislation index above, here is the official and comprehensive list of links to the Attorney Gerneral's Department:

http://www.australia.gov.au/portfolios#attorneygenerals

It has the following title:

'The Attorney-General's Department serves the people of Australia by providing essential expert support to the Government in the maintenance and improvement of Australia's system of law and justice.'

I would encourage everyone to familiarise themselves with the laws that they feel are relevant to them. The more people that know about the laws that govern them, the more stable and progressive our society will be. I believe that to be absolutely true. I know not one single school in Australia, either public or private, that teaches the school students of Australia about the legal system that will govern them for the remainder of their lives, except maybe as an elective subject for the HSC in SOME schools.. If someone knows of a school that does teach students about the legal system in its regular curriculum, please tell me it is so I can send my kids there in the future if I ever have any.

I wish everyone who is interested in the laws that govern them good luck with their research.
Posted by Ev, Sunday, 18 December 2005 2:18:02 AM
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Boaz, Of course I can think of a policy direction and a community solution. Policy should be take a non-racist approach. Policy should be directed at trying to assist Australians accept the wisdom of non-violent resolution, policy should assist in ensuring multi-culturalism is portrayed in a positive light that it deserves, policy should assist in directing more resource to the DPP and police department (along with checks and balances), and, especially, policy should assist in fighting radicalism rather than promoting racism. The community can assist by NOT agitating in an aggressive and mean-spirited manner against Muslim, Christians, Indigenous and others that they regard as different. Perhaps a litte more PCness would help.

Your post re: "lawful defence", I think, given the circumstance was irresponsible. You could get some poor silly bugger jailed. For instance: you say that if someone comes at you with a baseball bat you can repond with a bat. The police would want to know why you had a bat. It would come down to your word against the other person. If there was no reliable witnesses (In the real world that means people not known to the parties), then you could be charged.

I was told of a situation where the police knew who had tortured, murdered an old digger. They knew who did it but the evidence has to be so strong as to be proven beyond doubt in court. That is the way it has to be so that innocent people aren't easily convicted.

Boaz, i like you (sort of) and don't want to see you get in the sh*t, so let me say that you were talking about going onto beaches with "brawn". That was unwise. Encouraging vigilanteism is wrong.

The situation you conjure doesn't consider the long-term political exploitation of racism nor the constant negative portrayal of all Muslims. Then there is the media. This has produced the them vs us climate. We must all reject radicalism. You are walking across wet paint Boaz -you never spoke of ratbags within groups nor offered excuses for other situations like the French situation. (Lucerne).
Posted by rancitas, Sunday, 18 December 2005 1:46:22 PM
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I as well wrote to Cronulla Surf as soon as BD posted the link ages ago, I wished them luck in dealing with the racism they have endured for so long and told them Australians would be behind them… and Australians are.

We all know Aussies aren’t in the wrong, shame they were violent but hey sh*t happens. To crack after years of tolerating the foul racist abuse from the lebs is no big deal. Dont worry soon there will be huge mass protests all legal and non violent against PC Islam Lebs.

One drunken arvo of totally reasonable resentment brings a week of ultra violence from lebs…

Oioioi isn’t the skinhead chant it’s the Aussie sport chant.

The Comancheros bikie gang (Milperra massacre) and the lebs are GANGS! The “Bra Boys” are lifesavers… Bet that was a genuine peace agreement, Peace our way or we kill you.

Iemma holds his seat in Lakemba… yeh right we know where his bread is buttered.

If it’s reasonable for the lebs to ask to patrol our beaches, what on earth is wrong with us having the same rights? Do you think the lakemba mosque would share its territory with us? Do we get our-self appointed police patrolling Auburn so we can wear bikinis safely and walk our pet pigs safely past the mosque? Get a grip people… are you into equality or not?

Aussies temper sure snapped! We are a nation of tuff convicts not pussies like France. PC may have the media but it doesn’t have the silent majority.
Posted by meredith, Sunday, 18 December 2005 2:45:04 PM
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forgive _ and _ remember

I found your post on zero tolerance somewhat confusing.

So you have zero tolerance for all white Australian sex offenders (and I agree wholeheartedly!), but you will tolerate Lebanese youths who gang rape white Australian girls "Leb Style" (Lebanese youth words, not mine)? What an incredible position you take. You are the first person I have ever heard who condones Lebanese gang rape on young Australian girls.

Kay
Posted by kalweb, Sunday, 18 December 2005 3:28:22 PM
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If the pontificating media (SBS. ABC, the Age etc) are so concerned with racism/intolerance in Australia, by all means, lets speak out against racism and racist books that inspire people to racial hatred. Take the Qur'an and ahadith for instance. They're chock full of Jew (apes and monkeys) hatred and racism against Black Africans (raisin-heads and slaves) and general intolerance of ALL non-Muslims.
1. Jew hatred - There are hundreds of references to this in the Qur'an and ahadith, here are just a few: Qur’an 4:55, 59:14-17, 5:41-42, 98:1, 5:80, 2:52-65, 59:2-6, 2:52-65, 5:59-60, 7:166. Ishaq:250, 240, 524, 248, 262, 364.
Tabari VIII:116,VIII:121,VII:87,VII:97,VIII:29,VIII:38. Bukhari:V4B56N679,V4B52N176.
2. Black Africans: considered by Muslims to be on the lowest rung of the racial ladder (Arabs are on the top rung) and are generally thought of as slaves (see Sudan, Niger, Mali, Mauritania etc - now, and “The Hideous Trade” by Jan Hogedoorn - the last 1100 years). Ishaq:243, 144, 405, 374. Tabari II:11, II:21. Bukhari:V9B89N256, V4B52N137.
3. General intolerance of ALL non-Muslims - where to begin.... here's a few: Qur’an 9:71, 8:59, 33:60-64, 5:10, 88:1, 5:78, 5:51, 72:15-25, 66:9, 60:1-5, 48:13, 9:28-33 (there are many more in the Qur’an). Bukhari:V4B54N487, V4B52N288, V5B59N572. Ishaq:344, 231, 363.
This kind of intolerant literature - neo-nazi, white-supremacist, satanist, Islamic, Christian etc needs to be exposed, ridiculed and rejected by ALL Australians, not just Anglos.
Some Muslims and their apologists will tell you that these texts don't apply anymore or have been taken 'out of context'. Don't believe them. Check them out for yourself, check out the statements of Al Qaeda, Muslim clerics and scholars, Malaysia’s Mahathir Mohamad etc. Check out everything that is happening globally today. Here are some examples:
An interview with Basmallah, a three-year-old girl, aired on Saudi TV, who was introduced as a “Muslim girl, a true Muslim”. Here’s the exchange:
Host: Basmallah, do you know the Jews?
Basmallah: Yes.
Host: Do you like them?
Basmallah: No.
Host: Why don’t you like them?
Basmallah: Because they are apes and pigs.
I shuddered to read such a thing. Where did she get these opinions?
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Posted by Skid Marx, Sunday, 18 December 2005 4:38:17 PM
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