tubley, You have summed things up beautifully, redneck and those of his ilk appear to be a less well bred version of average society, with these extreme right wing views, one wonders why they don't choose to like in the usa where everything they want is laid on for them, violence, murder, death penalty, all the great things in life, they are so lunatic right that even some Liberals have had to wear their scorn, see above. I have no idea whether or not redneck, and his mad mates live in Townsville, NQ, or not, but wherever they live, God help their community, as for being uneducated, one can only assume so, by their comments.

Even the uneducated have a right to express their views, and to be heard.

It doesn't mean however that we are compelled to agree with those views.

And lay off the military! I know a number of ex-service personel who would never want to see capital punishment in Australia. I also know a number of ex military personel who are well read and educated.

It is my experience that those who have actually had to fight, or train to fight, mostly want a free and liberal civil society.

Your point on education was well received, Hamlet. However I don't agree with your views on fighting. You mention 'fighting' and being 'trained to fight' but there are other ways to do fight.

Look at doctors and nurses battling against the effects of cancer. Look at teachers in oversized classrooms battling against a failing education system. Look at the struggling 'Jo-Blo' scraping to find a few bucks to sponsor some poor bugger in the third world who is starving to death (or those who are struggling to feed even their own family).

And look at the masses of good hearted people trying to find civilised alternatives to capital punishment, and those using intelligent diplomacy instead of military might to establish peace among nations. This is indeed a fight. In that sense the meaning of fighting becomes much broader.

Redneck writes: "This is now the fourth anti capitol punishment article published on this site. The owners of this site apparently will not tolerate a contervailing article."

How do you know the site won't tolerate the other side of the argument? Have you written and submitted a pro-capital punishment article? Are you going to?

Tubley, Tubley, Tubley, while I agree with your sentiments regarding Redneck, give Townsville a fair crack of the whip! Crikey, how could you have stayed in a place that you despise so much for eight years?? The place is alright mate! No less so than Mackay, Cairns, Rocky, Maryborough or Bundy or the smaller towns in between. Yes I hate the hoons and the Cowboys, but it isn’t any worse than many other towns in that regard. And it is not a town full of redneck homophobes, daaarling.

As for capital punishment, I concur with Woodyblues; “The death penalty is simple and absolute. We should use it sparingly and with great care but we should use it for those that commit heinous crimes against society knowingly and with premeditation” and ThruTheHaze; “For my part, I'd favour a system that allows for the death penalty for those who commit premeditated murder where there is NO doubt as to guilt - eg the Cobby killers, Martin Bryant”.

There should be no such thing as a mandatory death penalty.

No, I am not gay… nor a homophobe.

Ludwig, If you live in Queensland, please contact Community Mental Health, this is a free service provided to you, barry and redneck at no charge, they want to help you become a civilised human being.