Kartia,

1. that was just an example - want another? suppose I welcome the immigrant in question into MY home (not yours!) or suppose the immigrant is invited by a religious group and is offered a place in their monastery. Need more?

2. Aboriginals are much more generous and inviting than yourself: they were in the forefront of the struggle to release the illegal immigrants from detention - they will surely welcome others in their native titles.

Boaz, let me see if I can phrase my point better.

I lived for most of the seventies in the shadow of IRA terrorism against the British. Their targets were selected - as are all terrorist targets - on the basis of causing the maximum amount of public nuisance as possible, in addition to the direct damage they caused to people. Like, killing them. Do a quick Google of IRA bombs london, and you will get the picture. Car bombs at the Old Bailey, bombs in London pubs, Birmingham pubs, a Mayfair restaurant, and many others. And that was just the seventies, it got worse after I left - the Stock Exchange, Harrods...

Before, during and after all this, I did not blame the Irish, even though the bulk of the bombings were carried out by Irishmen. I did not blame the Catholic religion, even though much of the IRA's work was carried out in its name. I did not blame the Protestants either, even though much of the antagonism had been fomented over time by the short-sighted and bigoted attitude their leaders often displayed.

It was terrorism that was the enemy, Boaz, not the Irish, or the various shades of christianity in whose name the atrocities were perpetrated. And today, it is still terrorism we are fighting, Boaz, not Muslims.

Your continued insistence to paint every Muslim with the brush of terrorism, to attribute every atrocity to the teachings of their religion, and to see only bad in a place where there is also much good, puts you firmly in the category of rabble-rouser. The fact that you do it with your keyboard rather than with a megaphone in front of an angry mob does not absolve you from the charge.

Boaz David,

Unemployment among some ethnic groups in Austalia is not related to their food preference Boaz. I had a first hand experience with ‘no-Muslims’ and “Anglo only’ recruitment policies in some of the large corporates in Australia and a tier 1 publicly listed recruitment company. No matter how good the candidates experience and how much below average salary they are willing to accept, but they persist and survive hoping one day the ‘white Australia’ policy will be totally wiped out.

Its a shame to think to think that Muslims in this community are unemployed by choice (although few cases may exist). I know of brilliant engineers, mechanics, and 711 shopkeepers with an MBA because the Australian values you keep blabbering about of ‘fair go’ do not apply to them.

As for your ongoing lies and misrepresentation on Islam (which I responded to on the ‘blaming the cultural bogeyman thread”) I can only say this: shame on you and your un’Australian’ values. I lived in this country for 10 years and Australians are beautiful, kind, honest, simple and welcoming folks. You need to go under a simulation test to see if you are fit for citizenship.

Fellow_Human: I wish there was a method of contacting other forum members... I am interested in the website proposition that you mentioned in another thread. I am a fellow Sydney-sider who has some experience in website design/graphics, as well as interested in contemporary Islamic thought.

Keep posting with a level head and I hope others find what you say useful.

ma'a salama

"MUSLIMS
will be told, that domestic abuse is a) not a valid part of our culture, and they will be treated exactly the same as everyone else if they beat the daylights out of their wives."

That's why White-Ribbon Day is so important, right?

Pericles, if that is not clear enough, nothing ever will be.
Sadly, I suspect that nothing ever will be.