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One of our posters has done some valuable research on sexual abuse and discrimination in detention. See who are the PERPetrators, and who are the VICTIMS... its quite noteworthy.

<<When the Inquiry visited Curtin, Port Hedland and Woomera, Sabian Mandaean families complained about their treatment at the hands of some Muslim detainees housed in the same compounds. As well as physical assaults, Sabian Mandaean families complained of verbal abuse (being called 'untouchable' and 'unclean').>>

<<The (Christian) boys recounted an incident on the boat where one of them drank water blessed by the largely Muslim 'passengers' and although water was a scarce commodity it was poured into the seas because of contamination by a Christian.(120)>>

So, while Trinity and Xena wax eloquent about setting these people free, perhaps they and others should look more closely at the nature of the people themselves.

This was just a small sample of VOLUMES of material, which indicates a pattern of abuse by muslim males against non muslims. (Sabean and Christian). A very noticable pattern is the theme that single or unprotected females are 'fair game' to adult males. Sounds rather like the mentality of the Muslims males who pack raped the girls in Sydney. ... and MORE of them are coming here ?

.. the mind boggles.

BD - this thread is not about setting free people who have committed any crimes - if that's what you are getting at - having trouble even following your post. I have not stated on any thread that anyone should be set free, that I can recall. I have asked for tolerance and a cessation of deliberate vilification of particular people. Also Trinity has not even posted here.

You are attempting to put words into others mouths - goes beyond taking comments out of context and on into well.... just lying. I don't think JC approves of lying BD.

Just goes to show how far you will go to stereotype a religion you do not approve of. Pathetic really.

As for women being raped - I don't understand what that has to do with this thread either. Just another opportunity to try and trash an entire religion for the behaviour of a few idiot muslim males.

Reality check BD - men from all persuasions commit rape. Husbands rape wives, father rape their children, boyfriends rape their girlfriends - most rape is commited by men the victim knows. If you are so concerned about women being raped - do some volunteer work at a rape crisis centre. Then you will obtain a very clear picture of just who is raping whom.

Also I live in a suburb with a high muslim population - I have yet to be harassed by any muslims at all.

You are still attempting to vilifiy the behaviour of the many for the behaviour of the few. Hitler did that to the Jews in Germany; white men did that to negroes in USA.

Fact: most people, you know, human beings, want to get along with each other. This campaigning about muslims wanting to take over Australia is arrant nonsense. Time to stop the misinformation.

And , furthermore, people like you BD REALLY make a good case for atheism.

Is the cultural incidence of rape a vilification of that culture? You can be sure the culture must be brought to account if it is a factor introduced by the perpetrator. Though rape was not in view in this thread, it should be remembered that doe-eyed Aussie girls were rounded up and raped in the name of the male’s culture.

They were unlikely to rape a tattooed sandal wearing butch woman wearing tongue studs. As you know rape is not about the pure sex act it is about male power to dominate in a sexual way.

Statistics from France and Holland suggest the incidence of rape has increased involving Muslim males. This is not vilification it is factual and the communities must deal with this behaviour by young Muslim males who feel non-Muslim girls are moral sluts to be pillaged and subjected shame for their power thrills.

Xena
lets be clear about something please. This article is about 'religious tolerance'. I referred to incidents of 'religious INtolerance' by Muslim assylum seekers against Christian and Sabeans among them. The intolerance shown, was of the worst imaginable kind.
Suggesting that people were so 'unclean' by virtue of not being Muslims, that precious water is better thrown overboard.
Further, that sexual harrasment by Muslim males in detention is quite a serious and frequent occurrence.

I was using this evidence taken from official reports, to show that bringing such people to Australia, will not contribute at all to an atmosphere of tolerance, something u speak a lot about.

At no time, did I suggest or state that 'ALL' Muslims are rapists or intolerant. I referred to specific examples, which further supports my other oft mentioned contention that much tighter controls of would be immigrants, and their attitudes is vital for a harmonious society.

If highlighting these things makes me a good case for Atheism, well,its regrettable, but I think also dishonest. Any person seriously seeking eternal answers would not look to me as the epitomy of all things holy, nor as the only source or example of information on such matters.

If you want to test the tolerance of Coburgs muslims, put a T-shirt on which says "I have sex with women" and see how you go, I can't predict, but I tend to think you might get a comment or 2 of a slightly negative nature.

I always value your comments even though they differ from mine.