Morgon-Zola
You were politely asked to do the following:-

“Please find me the links to feminist or male bashing text that is any different to these characteristics (ie these characteristics were ” highly generalised, without substantiation, and without reference to any reliable research.”)”

You haven’t done this BECAUSE YOU CAN’T, as follow up research into feminist or male bashing text nearly always reveals the previously mentioned characteristics. There have been very few exceptions found.

Meanwhile this type of indoctrination text is being poured into the minds of countless students at universities, and now at some secondary schools within this country also. One of the results of this is a wide scale anti-male and anti-father bias, which then has enormous repercussions throughout society.

The hard facts are:- almost 1 in 3 children will not be living with both natural parents by the time they reach 18. Most of the time these displaced children will be living with their mother, with 76% only seeing their fathers every second weekend or less, and 30 % not seeing their father at all.

Other hard facts are: -Nearly 50% of the mothers in these single female parent families do no work, and another 25% work part time only. Members of these single female parent families normally have the highest rates of poverty, child abuse, poor school performance, STD, drug taking, unwanted pregnancy etc, of any family type.

This is now the greatest social problem within society, but much of this social catastrophe has been previously hidden behind highly biased Social Science research. However more and more facts are now gradually immerging (after 30yrs).

It has been noted for some years that OLO regularly posts feminist or male bashing articles onto its web site, and of course much of the rest of the media does similar. This is only adding to these immense social problems.

Your inability to answer any question, your great ability to make generalised maligning comments, your inability to provide reliable evidence to substantiate anything you say etc, is typically a part of the problem also, and there are many others like you.

Timkins
"Daniel Donahoo argues that men wearing makeup is not a pretty sight."
Go to a forum that is debating fatherhood.
This forum is about men wearing make up.
Your incessent, relentless rhetoric is ruining this forum for others.
If you can't debate the issue then remain silent.
Now, where did I put my lippy?

Timkins
If you have an opinion on single parenthood, women, and how they are ruining the universe, write an opinion piece and let us debate it as we are trying to do with Daniels piece.

Please stop trying to hijack other topics, this is really getting very annoying.

I suggest we all stop taking the bait.

“Thank god I’m an atheist” – Dave Allen. ;-)

Boaz - I am sorry you are so blinkered by your bible that you are unable to sustain any debate or original thought without a quote or two from your scriptures.

Men and women have far more in common than they do differences – to focus solely on these differences at the expense of our common humanity is just the same as focussing on the superficial differences between races – we are all human. A Chinese proverb states; ‘women hold up half the sky’. A relationship based upon mutual friendship and respect is far healthier than what you propose via your religion.

Getting back to the issue it is better that women become a little less obsessed about appearance and better that men should look after themselves a little more.

Timtam – given the relevancy of your topics, all I have to say to you is this •

None of my posts have ever been removed or modified, and I substantiate most of what I say through references to research and other articles. The vast majority of my postings are in response to generalised maligning remarks made about myself by others, while I have repeatedly asked those people to be more specific. However they repeatedly do not do so, and I guess that is their problem, and a problem for the moderators eventually.

As detailed below, this article is standard male stereotyping, and I think that fathers in particular should have much to say about it, as they can speak for younger males who may not be able to do so. The real state of “men” and “fatherhood” can also be made known, as the reality is quite different to how the author tries to portray it.

Article count:-
Statements made-64
Statements referenced to reliable research-0
Statements using the term “metrosexual male”-2
Definitions of what is a “metrosexual male”-0
Positive statements about men-0
Negative statements about men-26
Positive statements about women/feminism-5
Negative statements about women/feminism-1
Statements extolling men to change in some way-8
Statements extolling women to change in some way-0

Article Summary:-
The author makes many statements, but none are referenced to any reliable research, and are highly likely to be fictitious. The author infers that many Australian men have become “metrosexual” without once defining what this means. There are many negative statements made about men, with no positive statements. The author makes a number of positive statements regards women and feminists, with only one negative statement. The author vaguely refers to some social problems, and states that men must change, while not stating that any changes are necessary for women.

So this article is just another male bashing and male stereotyping article, but such articles can lead to false perceptions in the minds of many people, create social problems, and also divert attention away from much more relevant issues facing males and fathers in society.

I guess Daniel has a lot of moral conscience (not).

For issues much more relevant to males Daniel read http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,12605581%255E7583,00.html

I think you've misunderstood the article, Timkins. I don't see how Daniel is male 'bashing' at all. He is just having a jibe at the pathetic way companies, through marketing, are trying to reconstruct the male identity. The social concerns you mention, are the direct result of big companies crushing people's self esteem, then offering products that will make them 'feel better'.

Anyway, metrosexual is just another word for prettyboy.