Penekiko, might be that most of us have some first hand knowledge of sex (or would like to have). Not many of us totally disinterested in the topic.

Gee Daniel, this is why we women wear blush. And you thought you were just writing an article about why it's good to be well groomed! It's not metro, it's not gay, it's not even castrating and giving in to the evil No Idea or Bovver Boots brigade. It's just a nice, lighthearted piece on the niceties SOME guys are actually practicing. Give the guy a break guys!

“Light-hearted”

Oh, I think the article is more than just “light-hearted”. The article is typically another long list of things men have to do, with not the slightest mention of what women have to do.

Daniel wrote:-
“We must improve our relationships with women and children. We must combine strength and compassion. We need to take the positive aspects about being men and create a new identity for our gender.”

Would Daniel ever write:-
“Women must improve their relationships with men and children. They must combine strength and compassion. They need to take the positive aspects about being women and create a new identity for their gender.”

Meanwhile women have to read countless magazine articles (normally written by a complete non-authority, but made to look like they are advice from an expert), spend hours looking through countless fashion photos and dress shops, do this quiz, do that quiz, or select a new hair shampoo each week in an endeavour to find which one is “truly me”.

But women are in no way under any obligation to change anything, because every problem in society is the result of those pesky “men”. (IE. technique No 8 from the list at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=2940#883

“8. Blame males for as many problems as possible, as this transfers responsibility for those problems onto males, and hides the fact that females may be partly or fully responsible for those problems occurring. Transferring responsibility also relieves females from having to find workable solutions to those problems.”

I think Daniel is either:-
1.totally afraid of saying anything negative regards the female gender
2.totally brainwashed by feminist propaganda
3.an incurable male basher
4.an addict of women’s media
5.an admirer of the highly sexist Sex Discrimination Commissioner
6.all of the above

I see that poor old Timmy's having another woman-free weekend.

Morganzola, Timkins does seem to have a lot of time on his hands. However I am being very unfair - this could so easily turn into a Timkins bashing exercise. Sometimes he actually does make a point. Men do need some positive roles to which to aspire. Many are excellent fathers; while in hospital recently the best nurse there was male. However, back to the debate.

Should men wear make up? - well its all about choice isn't it? Although it could also be a a part of the evil feminist conspiracy to rid the world of the male sex......

FEM
"Hmm. Alarms ringing! I disagree that we need to continue to define our socially-imposed differences, and focus instead on our similarities, after all, we're all human"


Actually Fem, we are humans of the male and female types. So, why try to dispose of this biological reality ? Socially imposed anything, is a direct result of us living in societies and how our culture emerges in a balanced way. Just one favorite feminist example is that of womens pay rates. This was compensated in the 'old' days by guys paying for outings as a matter of 'culture'. It became less and less workable as social change and the sexual revolution destroyed so much of our heritage. Clearly in the current climate it would be plain unjust.
But the principle behind the differential was culturally balanced at the time, and like most things in culture, it did not cater for 100% of the community. Is today any better ? Equal pay is fine, but how this one thing impacts on other areas is probably less known. Its quite possible that taking away from males the sense of duty and care towards females, strikes at the heart of what we 'are', weakening our self esteem, lowering our threshhold to disease, increased depression etc ? Does this sound like 'mysoginistic woffle' ? check out what happened to an aboriginal tribe when the introduction of a steel axe, had just this effect, and they are now extinct. (Steel Axes for Stone Age Australians- Lauriston Sharp)its pretty much a foundation document for studies in Social/Cultural anthropology)

Perhaps along with equal pay, we needed something ELSE to compensate males for the emotional and psychological loss they suffered as a result of now feeling 'less needed'. Perhaps the feminist movement failed to recognize that if they want equal pay, they should also try to contribute to that which males lost in the process ? That way the balance would have been retained.

As for the article, I agree with Timkins. Purely a marketing strategy to further consumerize us.