"There are some people who have just enough religion to hate others, but not enough religion to love others."
Thanks mattByrne.

Hey Ringtail,
Do you hammer a light-bulb into a piece of wood, or change a nail without assistance. That’s what happens if you move too far to the left or right.

I personally have seen what happens to a community when gays move into the area, and do not show much self-regulation or self-control. Eventually tolerance runs out, as gays are not always the “victims” by any means.

Feminism and homosexuality are very closely aligned, and both will often use the same techniques of public indoctrination. However history shows that feminists and homosexuals should not be just “unconditionally accepted”.

Timkins,

You say "When it comes down to basics, a totally liberalised or totally tolerant society simply does not function for very long." How do you know this? Have you ever seen this occur? In fact i could argue it is impossible for you to have witnessed this as the society would not have been totally tolerant or liberal simply because you were there. Using an anti gay agenda to have a crack at the liberal arts in universities is also pretty childish dude, and by the way I don't know anyone that would hammer a light bulb into a piece of wood, as it'd break, back to TAFE for you man.

mattByrne,

There are 2 reason why we know "a totally liberalised or totally tolerant society simply does not function for very long":

1. History tells us this. See Vico's and Unwin's studies.

2. Logic tells us this. A totally tolerant society must, by definition, tolerate everything including paedophilia, rape, sexual harassment etc. - indeed, it must also tolerate intolerance itself. ie. tolerance leads to crime because there is no reason for restraint, and the whole concept is ultimately self-defeating.

I guarantee you this, mattByrne, you for one, are most definitely NO MORE TOLERANT than I am.

AK

"Logic tells us this. A totally tolerant society must, by definition, tolerate everything including paedophilia, rape, sexual harassment etc."

No. You're wrong about that. HOW DARE YOU compare homosexuality with these horrible crimes? No. Your logic is flawed and disgusting and lacking of moral virtue. A tolerant society accepts those things which do not inflict harm upon others unwillfully, my acceptance of homosexual people is far from your irrational hatred brought about by a flawed reading of "the good book". Go back and read the article about the Rabbi. You may learn something and evolve a little.

Hi Matt,
No one should be just automatically accepted into any community “unconditionally”, but this is what some people seem to be asking for homosexuals. If you look back at some of my previous posts you will see where homosexuals were accepted quite readily into a community I lived in, "at first but not latter", because they showed very little self-control and self-regulation.

The belief that we can satisfactorily live in a society where “anything goes” is erroneous. For example :- There has been little public complaint regards such things as MTV in the past, but that is now changing also because it has become “sleeze media", and it can affect the young.. see .. http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=2990#1991

The belief that education will solve all social problems is also naïve, as education systems can become corrupt. This is why an Academic Bill of Rights is being incorporated into a number of universities in the US. This has often come about from strong objections by the students themselves, because they felt that they were being brainwashed by leftist dogma, and were simply not learning enough that was useful.

See .. http://www.studentsforacademicfreedom.org

I think the same type of backlash is now happening in our education systems, and I personally know of people who have chosen TAFE over university for their tertiary education, because of all the leftist nonsense now occurring in universities. One person I currently work with did a trade by apprentice, then an AD, then a degree in engineering through correspondence. He has rarely set foot in a university and doesn’t want to, because of all the leftist or "lets be totally tolerant" dogma that is now being taught in those places. He is much in demand in his profession.