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WA Liberals will recriminalise homosexuality : Comments

By Brian Greig, published 2/2/2005

Brian Greig argues that if the Liberals win the WA election there will be a human rights roll back for gays.

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Queer has as much merit as home and away if it offends you stop watching it. We have legal and illegal drugs consumed in vast amounts each day. The basis on whether one is legal or not is based on any rational thought. Why is alcohol legal and LSD not, ones a poison with serious side effects and one is not.
Posted by Kenny, Monday, 7 February 2005 10:52:25 AM
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Kenny,
The following is an example of what happens in a highly liberalised or “anything goes” society, where there are minimal restrictions.

It is from a study undertaken into MTV at … http://cbs4.com/newsentertainment/entertainment_story_033202604.html

“ Approaching the first anniversary of Janet Jackson's famed wardrobe malfunction, a study released Tuesday criticized MTV for the "incessant sleaze" of steamy programming aimed at young people.

During one week last March, the watchdog Parents Television Council said it counted 3,056 flashes of nudity or sexual situations and 2,881 verbal references to sex.

MTV has clearly chosen to cater to the lowest common denominator, to offer the cheapest form of programming to entice young boys ... dangling forbidden fruit before their eyes," said Brent Bozell, PTC president and conservative activist.”

When there are no restrictions or boundaries, society tends to fail or go downhill. “That” is what I do not like about the gay community, it is has almost no self-regulation, and regular drug taking and promiscuous sex seem to feature heavily in the gay life style
Posted by Timkins, Monday, 7 February 2005 11:19:00 AM
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Kenny,

Your response is typical of gay activists who are confronted with the damning evidence of the implications of their chosen lifestyle. Instead of serious debate you resort to ad hominem and cavalier dismissal. These are tell tail signs of having no response and no defence.

1. Just because people object to the homosexual lifestyle (and for very good reasons) doesn't mean their comments are hate speech.
2. Even if your stat about homosexual events in a man's life is correct (and I very much doubt it - sounds like Kinsey's flawed "research" to me - see Reissman), what does that have to do with anything? We are talking about men who adopt a gay lifestyle and push the gay social agenda, not men who once flirted with another man.
3. It appears you dismiss Vico's and Unwin's studies because you just don't agree with them. But don't think that means that their research is bogus, flawed or useless. If you think so, then why? Point out specific details of why it is flawed. And who thinks Unwin's research is useless, and why? Your fellow gay activists?

AK
Posted by Aslan, Monday, 7 February 2005 1:00:12 PM
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Asian,
I agree there. I have had the same problem with feminists. Criticise their often flawed and highly gender biased philosophises, and get labelled as being misogynist or a woman-hater.

Criticise the lack of self-regulation by gays with their lifestyle, and get labelled as being homophobic.
Posted by Timkins, Monday, 7 February 2005 1:13:40 PM
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To all of the people using religion as an excuse to be intolerant of their fellow citizens I suggest you have a look at this: http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Farewell-to-the-rabbi-of-tolerance/2005/02/06/1107625057722.html
Posted by mattByrne, Monday, 7 February 2005 3:32:19 PM
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Matt,
While the Rabbi may have a point regards “tolerance” of others, eventually hard decisions have to be made so that society can function.

The Rabbi places importance on education (eg "Today's problems are likely to continue for a few years, but in due course the education system will help us to re-mould our society.") However as can be seen in the US, university education has become so “liberalised” and left wing as to be completely useless. Students can spend years at universities, and eventually they can debate the meaning of life, but they can’t hammer a nail into a piece of wood or change a light-bulb without assistance. Employers do not want them. Similar is happening in our education systems, where students can pass through the education system but are almost unable to read or count.

Eventually hard decisions have to be made, and widescale homosexuality does not produce a sustainable way of life. That is biological fact, and the lack of self-regulation by many homosexuals (which leads to a very hedonistic and self-absorbed life-style) produces a very poor spiritual life.

When it comes down to basics, a totally liberalised or totally tolerant society simply does not function for very long.
Posted by Timkins, Monday, 7 February 2005 4:11:39 PM
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