Dear Orlando
I appreciate your persistence to denigrate :) but thats ok.

I'm interested very much in this little exercise you did with the children in Britain... which I guess means you work there as a teacher ?

I'm glad you used one of my posts, but I am a little concerned that you might have chosen one in isolation from the bigger picture, which may have given an inaccurate representation of my position.

You have descibed me as 'racist' on a few occasions, and added expletives.. (not a good recommendation for your own ethics I'm afraid).... I'm happy to interact and dialogue with you on that particular point... so please email me on jdrmot@tpg.com.au
and we can clarify the issue.

I have a feeling you don't exactly understand where I'm coming from, and I'd like to know on what basis you call me 'racist'. Do you call 'minority' ethnic groups 'racist' when they act in certain ways or is 'racist' a tag you reserve only for 'white' people ?

I'd love to know what the area was where the children are, and their racial and religous mix if you don't mind sharing that ?

I did some activism myself the other day. Went to RMIT and displayed a poster of a PLO massacre of Christians. 500+ slaughtered, and 25,000 ethnically cleansed (Damour/Lebanon). 2 people stopped to chat, one a white bloke and the other a black bloke from Somalia (a muslim) both were warm and congratulatory in manner towards me.

Hope to hear from you soon.
Cheers
Boaz

Dear Orlando

just one more thing if I may....

Concerning my rather 'vigilante' approach to security in Cronulla etc...

I rang the police in Melbourne yesterday, regarding how they would defend free speech and the right to peaceful, lawful protest in a public place and his attitude was this.

"If there is a raging mob of Lebanese, or Palestinians, out to attack you, I'll arrest YOU and drag you off, I won't be a punching bag between you and them" (word for word)

He said this in the context of "There will not be many police at this event"... which raises the question of...'why' ?

That was from the special event officer. Now.. with attitudes like that, can you see any hope for individual 'white' blokes in the face of a crowd of middle east thugs ? (as opposed to peaceful middle east people)

I don't know of you have been to Sydney, but its a bit difficult to speak with any understanding about the issues I'm referring to unless you have experienced it.

If an ethnic/religous group in the UK told you (because of your skin color.. white) that you CANNOT goto the rock pools of a particular beach because it is for 'their' women, would you be ok with that ?

Can you imagine the reaction if a British 'bobby' was set upon by a middle east mob, and beaten half to death ? I think a 'Bobby' is an icon like our Life Savers...

I have a feeling the 'racism' is on the other foot here mate... discriminating against people at a beach because they are 'not' Muslim is out and out racism and even worse, it is an attack on our fundamental freedom of association, an attack on the state.

one post,with so many gems available! as for the police,what do they have to do with the law? teacher?long way off.the staggered growth of this colony is fascinating to many others so much more advanced.consider the origins of this 'forum' and you may be a little closer to some enlightenment.

Hi there Orlando
I'll provide an update on my visit to the demonstration, it went quite well actually, and I managed to speak with the very policeman who I'd previously contacted by phone.. He turned out to be a nice bloke.
The demo was a total fizzer.. they only managed about a 100 people.
I chatted with a few of the organizers and clearly they are quite ignorant of anything except what they have been spoon fed by their manipulators.
You haven't emailed me yet...I'm waiting.
Perhaps you don't understand exactly where I'm coming from or the exact nature of our Australian conditions, which vary from City to city and state to state.

I noticed on the news today that the number of Muslims being suveilled is not in the 10s or 100s, but in the THOUSANDS.. (In UK I mean).
I think its pretty safe now to actually 'guarantee' that we will have an increasing polarization of our society, with Muslims becoming more and more marginalized by their own religious notions and by our reaction to them.

The 13 men who's comittal hearing I attended here (Melbourne) have now been actually committed for trial, the magistrate considered there is enough evidence.

I think you are confusing 'racism' with an alert and vigilant attitude to our own national security.

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As a young man of Middle Eastern decent and of Islamic religion I must disagree with the Doctors overall rationale of this contentious issue.

No one in the city of Sydney can deny that no other ethnic minority in this country has been involved in as much criminal activity as the young Lebanese males of Sydney. One just needs to socialise within nocturnal Sydney on Friday and Saturday nights to see the atrocities committed by SOME NOT ALL Lebanese Islamic youths.

They have no respect for themselves, Australia, Islam, females, males, the law, their nationality or their families.

They are the offspring of the militant filth and scum and that was allowed immigrate here in the midst of the Lebanese civil way in the 1970’s and 1980’s under and lenient Fraser and Whitlam government.

These animals would be on the end of a hangman’s noose if they were in Lebanon. Most of Telopea Street has been populated by members of the Lawless Hill Tribes of North Lebanon.

So let’s get real here, this is a specific sub culture of our Middle Eastern community. We all despise these thugs. I and my family left Bankstown because of the crime and fear generated by these dirt bags.

With all this aside we must realise that a lack of law enforcement is the real the issue here. Animals like this of what ever nationality need to be jailed. All good Middle Eastern people of Australia whether they are Islamic or Christian want a peaceful safe environment for themselves and their families.