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Decline in feminism? The backlash myth : Comments
By Paul Norton, published 19/8/2005Paul Norton argues there is no evidence to support popular claims that Australians are becoming more conservative.
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Posted by Timkins, Tuesday, 6 September 2005 9:35:37 AM
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And there you are folks
Proof beyond any doubt that Timkins is completely incapable of answering a straight forward question with a simple 'Yes' or 'No'. Although he has answered one question and the answer is... No, Timkins can't make a post without mentioning Susan Maushart. Why? One can only assume that he REALLY doesn't believe in equal rights between men and women and lacks the gall to say it. OR The tape is still stuck - where is a technician when you need one? Don't hold you breath folks, looks like we're just gonna get repeats... Posted by Trinity, Tuesday, 6 September 2005 10:11:04 AM
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Struth and double Struth!
I can't believe you people are still going on about this issue. Over 140 posts. Is this some sort of record for this site? Anyway, it proves that the original article is spurious and that the so-called "backlash" is no myth. The sexism that is feminism is a very hot topic. And oh yes, for those people who have a penchant for sexist satire, like Susan Maushart writes apparently - although I for one was never one of her regular readers. Especially after she was dropped from the Opinion section of The Australian website about a year ago, poor girl - may be interested in this - The uselessness of women http://www.kittennews.com/kn_mag/04_apr03mag/johng_04.htm Warning - slightly rude picture, may not be worksafe. Yo, vivent longtemps la différence! Posted by Maximus, Tuesday, 6 September 2005 1:02:58 PM
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Trinity,
I’ll explain how the situation has been. Whenever a feminist supporter has called another poster a maligning name, I have written “Dr Susan Maushart PhD” in my posts, because it is people such as Dr Susan Maushart PhD, who have been gradually training people to call other people a wide variety of maligning names, and you have also called other posters a considerable number of maligning and discriminatory names, very similar to Dr Susan Maushart PhD. I have found that there are people who believe that by calling themselves “feminist”, it will give them a passport to do and say whatever they feel like, but whenever these same people are asked questions about “feminism”, they invariably have the most minimal knowledge about it. They just mouth the word “feminist”, because it makes them feel “elitist” in some way If the data was allowed to become more widely known, it would be realised that motherhood in Australia, is now at it’s lowest point ever in Australia’s history. This would definitely be the case for mothers who have been brainwashed by people such as the feminist acclaimed, and Sex Discrimination Commissioner recommended Dr Susan Maushart PhD (who doesn’t even know if her 10yr old son has toenails). From “Victims of feminism's tinpot tyranny” by Amanda Platell, "Sunday Mail" 4/9/05 “One of the largest surveys into what academics call "life satisfaction" (what we mortals call "happiness") has concluded that many defining principles of the feminist manifesto brought sadness, not salvation, to millions of women. Far from liberating women, says the survey, the feminist movement has created its own sexual tyranny. And, ironically, women are the victims. The research spanned 23 years in 12 European countries, tracking the "life satisfaction" of 450,000 women from 1975 to 1998.” So the defining principles of feminism, do not necessarily become life satisfaction, (when that life satisfaction is actually measured over time), and as Dr Janice Shaw Crouse has said, feminism is “one of the greatest mythmakers of all time”. http://www.worldcongress.org/wcf3_spkrs/wcf3_crouse.htm. Very few “isms”, have every resulted in democracy, equality or life satisfaction. Posted by Timkins, Tuesday, 6 September 2005 5:41:38 PM
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Er, OK, Timkins.... so I take that to mean you don't believe in equality for men and women?
Posted by Trinity, Wednesday, 7 September 2005 8:23:39 AM
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Trinity
"equality for men and women?" That depends very much on the details of that “equality”. Hitler said that the Third Reich was going to bring “peace and prosperity” to the people of Germany for 1,000 yrs. Of course that was propaganda only, and Hitler’s version of “peace and prosperity” eventually brought about a massive amount of death and destruction throughout Germany and much of Europe. So if a feminist says the word “equality”, I would like to know much more about their version of “equality”, and how they intend to achieve it, (to ensure that the term "equality" is not being used as a propaganda term only). This could be a part of the “backlash”, as feminists have been given the benefit of the doubt for some decades now, but time is up, and they would now have to clearly state what are their detailed policies, texts, main players etc, (eg questions as listed at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=2466#14197 ) If feminists don't want to answer questions about "Feminism", then they should drop the term, and call themselves something else. Posted by Timkins, Wednesday, 7 September 2005 10:10:03 AM
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You still seem confused. You say that males and feminists are the same. Is that true is it?
If feminisms is objectively studied, there is the most minimal evidence to say that feminism is for “equality”. The term ”equality” is usually used as a propaganda termonly, and instead, there is much evidence to say that feminism is highly anti-male and also highly anti-child.
To help you in your confusion
A/ Do you think that women should have equal rights to men?
Men should have equal rights to women. At present, women receive far more government money than men for less income tax paid, women generally receive far less sentencing in law then men, many women now have the most minimal regard for men, fathers etc.
B/ Do you think women should have an equal opportunity to do what they wish (to the extent that man does)?
If the answer to a/ is followed then men will have equal opportunity to women
C/ Do you think women are equally capable of leading and decision making as men?
If a woman or a man follows general feminist procedures for problem solving, then neither should lead or make decisions. If faced with a problem, feminists have rarely solved any problem, but tend to make the problem worse, and then they will try and hide the problem, suppress data etc.
Feminist procedures to problem solving normally are
- 1. Immediately launch into mantra (eg repeat continuously “women’s choice”, “a woman and her children”, “patriarchal power structure” etc)
- 2 Demonise males and portray females as being perpetually oppressed (eg Dr Susan Maushart PhD)
- 3. Call for more government spending (normally on women)
The results:- high rates of abortion, low rates of child birth, high rates of divorce, low rates of marriage, high rates of welfare, high rates of taxation, etc, etc, etc. All are unsustainable in any society.
I could be wrong of course, so you or any other “feminist” (including the highly discriminating Trinity http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=2466#14108) can provide specific details on feminism, by answering the questions at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=2466#14197