Dear Bezza,

In other words, it does not matter what the Quran says because nobody is following it anyway.

Does the Quran, for example, allow Muslims to kill innocent 6-year old Muslim children?
Yet they do.
They do whatever they like, they don't care about the Quran.
It is their primitive tribal customs that set the theme in the Middle-East, not Islam.

But that is already changing: women can now drive in Saudi Arabia, which already starts to have bikini beaches too. Personal freedoms there has not yet progressed as much as in Australia, but it is going that way... while in Afghanistan it goes the other way.

Not long ago, Australia was like that too:
http://www.9news.com.au/national/historical-beaches-australia-nostalgic-look-back-nations-beachgoers-photos/aa12d6eb-894a-4dd6-8f7d-c89417b744b8

Once progress has taken place, Arabs no longer have any reason to object to Israel's existence.

Destroying everything that has more than two bricks upon each other does not help to bring about progress.

Well Yuyutsu I can see some of your comments sense, yet most seemed to
be just pointing out the changes.
As I said the Koran just needs an update.
However to alter the Koran is blasphemy punishable by death.
Look, for a non-religious person like me the hatred that the moslems
have for Jews and perhaps less so for Christians, makes them unsuitable
people to live with others. If I had my druthers I would never allow
moslems into the country. I think some European countries are now
coming to that conclusion.
I found what you wrote somewhat rambling. Perhaps you are tired of the subject.
My suggestion of dismantling Gaza has the purpose of separating them
permanently with a buffer in between.
As it stands now we or our descendants will be writing the same posts
every 5 or 10 years forever.

Well I am rather tired with this subject as too many allow positive
solutions to be be refused for woke reasons.

Dear Bezza,

«the hatred that the moslems
have for Jews and perhaps less so for Christians, makes them unsuitable
people to live with others.»

The majority of Muslims do not hate Jews, or Christians for that matter, not as such anyway.

What happened, starting gradually from about 1920, is that the Muslim clerics became concerned of the European Zionists who settled Israel: the Zionists were mostly socialist, young and promiscuous, replacing the traditional family structure with the Kibbutz. Zionist women did the same jobs as the men, together with the men. They were not owned by the men, they made love with anyone they liked whenever they liked because the babies were kept in communal housing and cared for by the community as a whole.

For the Muslim clerics, that influence could spell the end of the rule of their men over their women and of themselves over their men. They could not bear it, so they incited their flock to kill the Zionists, and what a better pretext to do so than blaming their being Jews!?

Yes, the Zionists happened to also be Jewish, but that is not what characterised them, in fact they were hoping that by moving to Israel they could shake off the shackles of the Rabbis in Europe, turning from being Jews into being Hebrew, with some even aspiring to become Canaanites. Many Zionists also admired the local Arabs and adopted some of their habits - they were inclusive, but the Muslim leaders were not!

The one thing that can stop the Muslim hatred, is progress, especially women's rights and sexual freedom. Once their sexual repression ends, Muslims will no longer find a reason to hate anybody.

Wars do not help this process - peace does, prosperity does.
You are right that similar conflicts will erupt again and again every 5-10 years, but that is only for as long as Muslims remain sexually repressed - and that is slowly changing.

Well maybe Yuyutsu but enough moslems are run by the clerics to make
them unsuitable as neighbours. When they do commit crimes they get
protected by their community and even the police do not act.
Plenty of moslems protect them so why bother, just do not have them here.

Dear Bezza,

Then what about those people here who are run by Christian clerics, are they any better?

And what about Muslims who come to Australia in order to escape the clerics in their countries of origins?

And what about progressive Muslims clerics, especially Ahmadiyyans and Sufis, who are really nice people?
http://www.alislam.org/jihad/

Just bomb them all, I say - with love!

Yes, well there is an idea !
The current carry on about the stages of cease fire !
Hamas says, we will kill ALL Jews, but do not turn off the electricity !
I mean how ridiculous can it get ?