Agree.

How naive are you? The majority of Palestinians ARE Hamas, or at least have similar ideology to them. If you banned Hamas it would simply be created again under a different name. The 2 state solution will not work because most Palestinians refuse to live alongside Israel peacefully. The only way it might work is to thoroughly vet anyone returning.

Anything needed to get all the Israeli hostages out and back with their families is welcome.

But once the hostages are back, who cares what happens in Gaza?

It would be nice, however, to give a home somewhere else to the Gazans who want to leave, even provided for free by the stupid American tax-payer, yet the Gaza-rebuilding part of the bill can be saved: those who wish to stay in Gaza are probably also those who do not deserve proper housing - they have their tunnels!

Who cares?
Only about 180 of the worlds 192 odd UN countries.
- As well as the worlds highest court.

But Israel are 'Gods chosen' so anything and everything is automatically justified

Honestly I'm not sure their God is the same as anyone elses anyway.

Dear Critic,

«Who cares? Only about 180 of the worlds 192 odd UN countries.
- As well as the worlds highest court.»

Don't be so sure, they just follow their political interests.
What they say is one, what they actually care about is another.
Yes, that includes the Gazan's Arab and Muslim "brothers".

I actually care for the poor Gazan people - I just don't care for their Gaza.
Their true best interest is to leave that bloody region,
especially that particular hell-hole which is the densest and most violent place on earth.
I believe that most would gladly take that opportunity if allowed.

«But Israel are 'Gods chosen' so anything and everything is automatically justified»

Please calm down - who told you such nonsense?
Oh please don't tell me that you actually believe it!

«Honestly I'm not sure their God is the same as anyone elses anyway.»

God is one and the same for all, always.

Jews (among others) worship a god, that is with a small-'g'.
not a Capital-'G", that is different.
I could expand on the role of gods if you are interested,
and the important religious role they play,
but do you think the god which Jewish people worship even exists?

The Australian model of a one liberal democratic state for all citizens living in peace and with equal political, social and economic rights in a multicultural society is the best option for Palestinians and the invaders. Macedonia and Palestine have been oppressed by settler colonisists with genocidal crimes. We have never conceded our sovereignty to anyone. We must be free and equal like the rest of humanity.

I agree with Denys, this proposal is breathtakingly naïve. It also has zero chance of working, but it has muddied the waters and made the chances of a sustainable peace even less likely. Some reasons why:

1. The probability of Trump actually being willing to commit tens of billions of dollars and troops and other manpower to rebuilding Gaza over several years is nil. His slashing of aid budgets, and withdrawal of support for Ukraine and disgusting push to commandeer their critical minerals in return for past support, shows the nature of his commitment to international affairs. Altruism and international community building do not feature highly.

2. Most Gazans won’t want to go, and to force them to leave would be ethnic cleansing. However you interpret the history of the region (and it is fiercely contested), forced resettlement is hardly a neutral option.

3. None of the countries in the region want to take resettled Gazans, even temporarily.

4. The UN will fiercely oppose it. The UN does not even recognise Hamas as a terrorist group. So there is every chance Hamas would stand in an election. Last time they did, they won (though it was a long time ago – Gaza has hardly been a thriving democracy since 2007).

I think Trump is dog-whistling to the far right in Israel and the USA that wants to see the forcible expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank as a precursor to the creation of a “greater Israel” – the extremist Zionist equivalent of the Islamic state sought by Hamas and its useful idiot friends abroad who chant “from the river to the sea”. The Zionist vision of this is marginally less appalling because it envisages achieving ethnic cleansing it through mass deportations not mass murder. But it is still appalling.

A simple solution is to send Gazans to Australia. Plenty of room in the wide brown land and huge sympathy throughout for Palestinians.
Another bonus would be increasing the number of Muslims in Australia to around three million.

Great for multiculturalism, great for the suck up to the U.N., and great for the building industry.

Their expertise in tunnel building could be utilised for much needed extensions to the underground rail network; just imagine a tunnel extending from Circular Quay all the way to Mascot. Huge advantages.

Their expertise at violence could be harnessed to quell White Supremacist riots against the beloved Multicultralists and to guard the National heroic flags of First Nations and Homosexual rainbow flags, which should flutter freely in the streets of our great inclusive Nation.

Further employment could be found in subduing unrest among the Jews that might object to their presence, particularly since Australia with its inclusive policies of integration, could advance the cause by settling Gazans away from the Jihad controlled Western Sydney suburbs, with its drug and gun running cousins, settling the Gazans into newly built high rise towers right along the coast, including Bondi and all points north and south.

Ensconced in their new bullet proof abodes, high above the Jews in the Eastern suburbs, finally the Gazans could snipe away for a year and a day at the terrified Jews below.
What a beautiful flower is Multiculturalism! Bring it on Uncle Don!

The best solution would be to destroy every building still standing
and destroy anything that starts being built.
With no built up future people will start leaving.
After all if a neighbore shot you would you want him back again next
door after gaol ? Especially if he threatened to do it again & again.
The Arabs wont rebuild if they think their reuild will be destroyed again.

I find the title of this article and what's implied no less offensive than what the Sydney nurses said to be honest.
The outcome would likely be far worse than any harm the nurses could've done on their own if they truly meant what they said.

Trump says no right of return for Palestinians under Gaza plan
http://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn57neepx4vo

Well Armchair, what is your solution ?
All the solutions I seem to see will just lead to another war every
5 to 10 years for the next hundreds of years depending on how many sons
the women of Gaza give birth to.
Don't fool yourself, this has been going on since 650 ad.

Israel should formally state it's borders, and stop preventing the Palestinians from having their own state.
"5 to 10 years for the next hundreds of years depending on how many sons the women of Gaza give birth to."

Israels wars in the M/E have created the exact same problem you allude for our Western countries, some worse than others.

Do you understand Netanyahu's 'Clean Break' policy paper, and it's relationship to the War on Terror, the Arab Spring and current events?
http://prezytion.com/clean-break-syria/

WE all know the Muslims will outbreed us all eventually.
Maybe on some level not being 'racist' and promoting 'multiculturalism' was suicide.

As in we should've allowed immigration from more like-minded people, as opposed to different-minded people with a grudge against the West and our bikini, beaches and beer lifestyle.

It's not like I'm promoting multiculturalism in Israel, just try to make a fair compromise, end the conflict and try to live peacefully with your neighbours.
If they did that, the whole world wouldn't be angry at Israel right now for provoking conflict and being an oppressor and aggressor.

Diversity is Good! Diversity is a strength!
http://x.com/FaustianFuture/status/1894093995946774552

Dear Critic,

«Israel should formally state it's borders, and stop preventing the Palestinians from having their own state.»

Why, Israel already has its borders, set in 1949.

Any territory beyond that, Israel promised to return in exchange for genuine peace with its surrounding Arab countries.

As for the so-called "Palestinians", surely you don't think that they want their own state - nobody is stopping them!
A state isn't a rose garden - it entails responsibilities and accountability, it limits corruption. "Palestinian" leaders like to SAY they want a state, but when opportunities arose, they escaped them all.

«WE all know the Muslims will outbreed us all eventually.»

I for one do not.

«Maybe on some level not being 'racist' and promoting 'multiculturalism' was suicide.»

Maybe we should have robbed the bank, maybe it was suicidal not to while we fear running out of money?

Look, we all are going to die: the choice is ours whether to die a racist, a criminal or an honest good person.

«we should've allowed immigration from more like-minded people»

But we already do!
Does that allows me to block/expel non-like-minded-people?

«as opposed to different-minded people with a grudge against the West and our bikini, beaches and beer lifestyle.»

Some Christians also hold grudge against bikini, beaches and beer, you can find many such in the Vatican...

When have you last been drinking beer on the beach surrounded by flirty girls in bikini? Shall we blame our old age on Islam?

BTW, are you aware that there are young women today who believe neither in God nor in any prophet, yet wear a hijab anyway in order to avoid unwanted sexual attention?

«end the conflict and try to live peacefully with your neighbours.»

But the "leaders" of both sides NEED this conflict, they live on it, they otherwise would be in prison, don't you have any pity for them?

«If they did that, the whole world wouldn't be angry at Israel right now for provoking conflict and being an oppressor and aggressor.»

Israelis are as helpless about it as yourself, why be angry at them?

"Why, Israel already has its borders, set in 1949."
Buying a few paddocks here and there and blowing up the King David Hotel doesn't mean the existing people who lived they have to kneel and thank you.

DEc 31st 1947, there's this thing called the Nakba.
At least we've tried to make peace with our indigenous people.
Israel still wants to wipe its lot out when they dared to put up a fight.

Dear Critic,

«Buying a few paddocks here and there and blowing up the King David Hotel doesn't mean the existing people who lived they have to kneel and thank you.»

Right, and nobody is asking them to.
Besides, there would just a handful now alive who lived there before 1948 and remember the place.
Besides, none of the buildings they had there still stands. They were mainly mud-huts that melted in the rains. In their place today there now are instead roads, hospitals, schools, industries, etc.

«DEc 31st 1947, there's this thing called the Nakba.»

And a similar number of Jews were expelled from Middle-Eastern countries (Iraq, Morocco, Egypt, Tunisia) around the same time, their properties confiscated.

«At least we've tried to make peace with our indigenous people.»

Oh but they did!
Zionism sought to incorporate all the natives as equal citizenship in its new country, offering them progress, prosperity and much respect. That was its original vision - the indigenous people consistently refused.
Why? because their Islamic Muftis did not want progress, which threatened to liberate their women!

Also many of those indigenous people remained in Israel as proud and happy citizens.

«Israel still wants to wipe its lot out when they dared to put up a fight.»

SOME Israelis in government, not Israel as such.

Re the King David hotel, that was where the British intelligence center was located, where the criminal and operational records of the members of the Hebrew undergrounds were kept, whom the British were hoping to hang. The principal purpose of the attack was to destroy these records.

The Irgun warned the British about the coming explosion, leaving them more than sufficient time to leave the building, but not enough time to take the records with them. Some of the British personnel heed that advice and saved their life, others sadly did not and died.

It is extraordinarily amazing how many people still talk of the two state solution.
First the Israelis refuse to live next door to a people whose sole
purpose is to destroy Israel and kill all Jews everywhere.
It is written in the Koran and just so you understand Jews are usually
bracketed with Christians.
The Islamists cannot accept a two state solution because their
ancestors conquered the area in the 7th century and land once conquered
by moslems remains Islamic land forever. So the land that is Israel
must remain under Islamic control.

As I said earlier, just destroy everything that has more than two
bricks upon each other and leave the Gazans in their tents.
They would soon get fed up and leave especially if they got some sort
of assistance. They would no doubt form a new Hamas organisation but
they would not be next door to Israel.

There is no solution to these repeating wars while ever Islam remains
unreconstructed. The Koran needs a New Testament as did the bible.
I did hear of an atheist movement in Arab societies, peraps they need encouragement.

Dear Bezza,

«It is written in the Koran and just so you understand Jews are usually
bracketed with Christians.»

And it is also written in the Bible that all witches, homosexuals, adulterers, idol-worshippers, Sabbath-breakers, false prophets and many others must be put to death.

«The Islamists cannot accept a two state solution»

Fine, then let there be three or four or five, leave it up to them.
So long as Israel leaves these cursed territories, let them fight among themselves and fall on each others' sword.

Israel's former swimming vice-champion, Iham Nasser, aged 25, was murdered a couple of days ago. His numerous medals could not save him.
He was an Arab-Israeli and was shot by another Arab-Israeli, just before Ramadan. A 6-year old boy was similarly shot and badly wounded while crossing the street on his tricycle, his mother and grandmother besides him: family feud.

Let these Muslims have as many states as they like (or none if they don't), let them kill each other there without disruption there, so long as Israel clears out of there!

Dear Bezza,

In other words, it does not matter what the Quran says because nobody is following it anyway.

Does the Quran, for example, allow Muslims to kill innocent 6-year old Muslim children?
Yet they do.
They do whatever they like, they don't care about the Quran.
It is their primitive tribal customs that set the theme in the Middle-East, not Islam.

But that is already changing: women can now drive in Saudi Arabia, which already starts to have bikini beaches too. Personal freedoms there has not yet progressed as much as in Australia, but it is going that way... while in Afghanistan it goes the other way.

Not long ago, Australia was like that too:
http://www.9news.com.au/national/historical-beaches-australia-nostalgic-look-back-nations-beachgoers-photos/aa12d6eb-894a-4dd6-8f7d-c89417b744b8

Once progress has taken place, Arabs no longer have any reason to object to Israel's existence.

Destroying everything that has more than two bricks upon each other does not help to bring about progress.

Well Yuyutsu I can see some of your comments sense, yet most seemed to
be just pointing out the changes.
As I said the Koran just needs an update.
However to alter the Koran is blasphemy punishable by death.
Look, for a non-religious person like me the hatred that the moslems
have for Jews and perhaps less so for Christians, makes them unsuitable
people to live with others. If I had my druthers I would never allow
moslems into the country. I think some European countries are now
coming to that conclusion.
I found what you wrote somewhat rambling. Perhaps you are tired of the subject.
My suggestion of dismantling Gaza has the purpose of separating them
permanently with a buffer in between.
As it stands now we or our descendants will be writing the same posts
every 5 or 10 years forever.

Well I am rather tired with this subject as too many allow positive
solutions to be be refused for woke reasons.

Dear Bezza,

«the hatred that the moslems
have for Jews and perhaps less so for Christians, makes them unsuitable
people to live with others.»

The majority of Muslims do not hate Jews, or Christians for that matter, not as such anyway.

What happened, starting gradually from about 1920, is that the Muslim clerics became concerned of the European Zionists who settled Israel: the Zionists were mostly socialist, young and promiscuous, replacing the traditional family structure with the Kibbutz. Zionist women did the same jobs as the men, together with the men. They were not owned by the men, they made love with anyone they liked whenever they liked because the babies were kept in communal housing and cared for by the community as a whole.

For the Muslim clerics, that influence could spell the end of the rule of their men over their women and of themselves over their men. They could not bear it, so they incited their flock to kill the Zionists, and what a better pretext to do so than blaming their being Jews!?

Yes, the Zionists happened to also be Jewish, but that is not what characterised them, in fact they were hoping that by moving to Israel they could shake off the shackles of the Rabbis in Europe, turning from being Jews into being Hebrew, with some even aspiring to become Canaanites. Many Zionists also admired the local Arabs and adopted some of their habits - they were inclusive, but the Muslim leaders were not!

The one thing that can stop the Muslim hatred, is progress, especially women's rights and sexual freedom. Once their sexual repression ends, Muslims will no longer find a reason to hate anybody.

Wars do not help this process - peace does, prosperity does.
You are right that similar conflicts will erupt again and again every 5-10 years, but that is only for as long as Muslims remain sexually repressed - and that is slowly changing.

Well maybe Yuyutsu but enough moslems are run by the clerics to make
them unsuitable as neighbours. When they do commit crimes they get
protected by their community and even the police do not act.
Plenty of moslems protect them so why bother, just do not have them here.

Dear Bezza,

Then what about those people here who are run by Christian clerics, are they any better?

And what about Muslims who come to Australia in order to escape the clerics in their countries of origins?

And what about progressive Muslims clerics, especially Ahmadiyyans and Sufis, who are really nice people?
http://www.alislam.org/jihad/

Just bomb them all, I say - with love!

Yes, well there is an idea !
The current carry on about the stages of cease fire !
Hamas says, we will kill ALL Jews, but do not turn off the electricity !
I mean how ridiculous can it get ?

Dear Bezza,

Without electricity, the tunnels in Gaza cannot be ventilated.
As oxygen runs out, Hamas terrorists will escape to the surface but the tortured Israeli hostages will be left inside and be the first to die.

Turning off the electricity is not a good idea.

As I said athe beginning taking hostages has made the whole situation
so very much dangerous.
As the number of hostages gets to small numbers Hamas will not release
them because they will want to retain their power.
At this point the Israelis will have choice of abandoning the remaining
hostages.
I would not want to be in Gaza then.

As far as recruiting terrorists, like the Catholics said,
Give me the boy at 7 yrs and we will have him for life.
The Catholics have not raised armies of terrorists.
Even the IRA never reached the brutality of the Islamists.

«At this point the Israelis will have choice of abandoning the remaining
hostages.»

Israel no longer has a choice in anything.
It now has a king, so its prime-minister was side-lined and is only a puppet.
Only Trump calls the shots now.
If he likes he may even decide who will be Israel's chief Rabbi.

I believe, at least hope, that Trump will now force a deal,
have all Israeli hostages released and Israel ordered to stop the war.
For Netanyahu that means going to jail, but what can he do?
Nobody dares to say 'no' to the emperor.
Look, he is even bending Egypt's arm now: "agree to my splendid Gaza Riviera plan or I cut your life-line".