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What Australians should understand about Donald J Trump : Comments

By Graham Young, published 30/1/2024

It appears that most Australians get their US news indirectly from CNN and The New York Times, barely filtered by the local media.

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But lets face it - He's racist, he's homophobic,
he's xenophobic, and he's sexist.

He's the perfect Republican candidate.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 1 February 2024 8:40:32 AM
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Most Australian's see US politics as a mirror of Australian politics. So Democrats = ALP and Republicans = Liberals. While that was sorta, kinda true a decade or three ago, things are very different these days.

Still, we find ALP adherents instinctively supporting the Democrats and Liberal adherents gravitating to the Republicans.

These days the MAGA Republicans represent the working class - the people Hilary and most of the Democrats think of as deplorables or what Obama called the clingers. In 2016 it was primarily the white working class that signed up to MAGA, but these days we see both Hispanic and Black working class votes moving increasingly toward Trump and his MAGA Republicans

The Democrat propaganda continues to claim that they are the part of the workers, but in reality the are the party of the middle and upper-middle class urban elites. Additionally they get the majority of support from the ultra-rich Americans and, of course, Wall Street is pretty much completely in the Democrat camp. Hilary's 'deplorable' comments were made to a meeting of Wall St brokers who she thought, correctly, would share her sentiments.

Since the end of the Cold War, the globalised US economy has worked for the benefit of the middle class urban elites and to the severe detriment of the fly-over workers from farmers to coal miners to oil pipeline workers to small towns and mom-and-pop businesses. The Trump revolution is seeking to redress the policies that so favoured the middle class and disfavoured the working class.

So its passing strange and not a little funny that those who think of themselves as favouring the workers via their support for ALP automatically disfavour MAGA and Trump when these are in fact the leaders of the working class. It again comes back to a lack of understanding of what the MAGA movement really is and what its aims are.

And I don't see that changing.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 1 February 2024 6:36:54 PM
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The problem is that what used to be called the Republican Party, the GOP (Grand Old Party) continues to exist in name only. It no longer functions as a democratic political party. It has dissolved into a political organisation dedicated exclusively to the promotion of the personal interests of Donald Trump.

The party leaders and committee members no longer fix the political agenda or make policy decisions without referring to their master.

The GOP is now under autocratic rule.

And, more than likely, the same schema would apply if, by misfortune, Donald Trump were to be elected President of the United States in November.

Naturally, we should be prepared for that. But I have great difficulty imagining that that is what a majority of Americans want. I doubt that they truly want to live in a regime similar to that of Putin’s Russia, Xi’s China or Kim’s North Korea.

Hopefully, many of the “grassroots” Republican voters will have enough common sense to realise that the MAGA (Make American Great Again) triumphant cry of the Trump fans will only lead to a catastrophic BAG (Break America Again) result for the United States with negative repercussions throughout the free world.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Friday, 2 February 2024 2:27:47 AM
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Having lived and worked in the US for close to ten years
and having seen and experienced things on the ground first
hand - I totally agree with Banjo's summation. The
Republican Party is not what it used to be. I've been
accused of being "fixated" with Trump.

No, I'm not fixated. I'm very concerned. Having spent close
to a decade in a place of course you're going to be interested
in what goes on there - especially when you see the detriment
happening.

I watched the House of Windsor series last night and I must
confess - Trump is a good reason for us to choose to remain
attached to a monarchy. Imagine having someone of his
calibre ruling our country.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 2 February 2024 8:37:56 AM
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"The Republican Party is not what it used to be.... I'm very concerned."

Yes Foxy, we know you've long ago abandoned the working class in favour of the urban elites you met in LA.

I lived and worked in Seattle. Doing so did give me an insight into the thinking of that portion of the US homeland. But only that portion. But it no more gave me an insight into the thinking and plight of, say, Appalachian miners as working in Johannesburg would give an insight in the thinking of west Congolese.

You working in LA would have taught you how the coastal elites think. Even then you only barely absorbed it...tell me how the Electoral College works again. But it didn't help you to understand the thinking and needs of the fly-over working class even if you wanted to learn, which I doubt.

Trump's major insight was to see the plight of the fly-over working class and seek to rectify it. Workers who have been abandoned by the system over the past 3 decades and abandoned by people just like Foxy.

Trump will probably fail because the task is too big and the globalist power structures aligned against him too strong. But the working class he represents won't go away
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 2 February 2024 9:42:49 AM
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Yes Banjo, that's what I was talking about. Australians see US politics as a mirror of Australian politics. Therefore they see political parties in the US as being the same as parties here, with tight central control and all members falling into line behind the leader. But its never worked like that in the US.

That's why in my previous post I talked of MAGA Republicans, to distinguish them from the traditional Republicans. People like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell are just as anxious to court the coastal urban elites and Wall St as the Democrats are. They long ago abandoned the working class.

Trump's MAGA Republicans are in open revolt against the traditional Republican hierarchy which is, of course, fighting back to save their political career and power structures.

This is why a MAGA victory is all the more improbable given that it is not only fighting against the Democrats, the deep state and the media but also half of the Republican party.

" I doubt that they truly want to live in a regime similar to that of Putin’s Russia, Xi’s China or Kim’s North Korea."

Struth, talk about falling for the left wing media lies. Hook, line and sinker from Banjo. Trump the dictator is one of the more inane claims from the anti-MAGA crowd. And Banjo buys it. Tell me, if Trump wanted to turn the US polity into "Putin’s Russia, Xi’s China or Kim’s North Korea" why didn't he do it in his first term?

BTW in "Putin’s Russia, Xi’s China or Kim’s North Korea" those opposed to the regime get sued on trumped up charges and disallowed from running in whatever passes for elections. Which party in the US is doing that
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 2 February 2024 9:44:11 AM
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