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What Australians should understand about Donald J Trump : Comments

By Graham Young, published 30/1/2024

It appears that most Australians get their US news indirectly from CNN and The New York Times, barely filtered by the local media.

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Thanks GY . Kudos.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 1:10:07 PM
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It's notable that Alan B seems to have Rino type political positions but supports nuclear energy.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 1:11:44 PM
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We worked and lived in the US for close to ten years.
Our children were born in the US. We witnessed a few
presidential campaigns and became familiar with American
politics. We saw and experienced many things first-hand.
Hence our decision to return home to Australia, We did not
like the direction America was headed.

Donald Trump's first tenure in the White House revealed
extraordinary cracks and tears in the lining of American
society and left for most of us little doubt that he was
a figure unlike any other in the nation's history.

His approach to governing was really unconventional to say
the least. Other president's tried to unite the nation.
Trump, from the very first day seemed to revel in a political
fight. He used his presidential position to criticize a
long list of people he saw as enemies.

From the news media to members of his own administration, to
elected officials in both parties and even foreign heads of
state. With more than 26,000 Tweets he showed his thinking on
a range of issues with Twitter finally banning him from their
platform. He was impeached twice. And he was the first
chief executive officer in more than 150 years to refuse to
attend his successor's inauguration.

No class. A spoilt self-centred brat!

It scares the heck out of me if this unstable creature gets
elected.

His protectionist policies may have a big effect on Australian
governments. Trump is likely to drive a harder bargain on
AUKUS and US policies in the Asia-Pacific in relation to China.
Us support for Ukraine could be problematic.

How closely would Australia want to work with the US under
this unstable man? I suspect we shall be taking different paths
especially if led by Peter Dutton who would be more
independent in our foreign policy, security, our political
culture, our democracy.

Trump has certain long-term
views. He's allergic to alliances. He's sympathetic to strong
men like Putin and his views echo isolationism.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 2:05:06 PM
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Canem Malum, anyone with half a brain would support nuclear energy, particularly if it involves molten Thorium reactors.
David
Posted by VK3AUU, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 2:06:31 PM
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Robert Reich writes:

"One word can sum up a Trump second-term:
VENGEANCE."

" He'd weaponize the Department of Justice to
victimize his enemies."

"He's vowed to investigate the media for "treason."

"He wants to "root out" leftists from our country
calling them "vermin."

And Reich states - "If you're not horrified, then
you're not paying attention."
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 2:50:32 PM
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"Even if President Trump doesn't win the next presidential election, the stresses that have shaped his rise to power will not disappear".... from the article.

I've said it before...Trump isn't the cause of the 'deplorable' uprising, he's the symptom. Trump in 2015, merely identified the vast swath of Americans who'd been pushed aside by the coastal elites and forgotten. These people had been led to believe that they could achieve some degree of salvation from the Tea-Party movement. But both the coastal elites using the apparatus of the state against the Tea-Party plus betrayal by their own leadership left the 'deplorables' unrepresented. Trump represents them and he didn't abandon them in his first term, which is why he's so loved by them.

Graham is very right that the coverage of US politics here in Australia is outrageously bad, particularly (but not limited to) the ABC. This is partly due to the wall-to-wall usage of highly biased US media.

Graham quotes from Selina Zito ( "The press treats him literally, but not seriously, his supporters take him seriously, but not literally")
and Australians would do well to better understand Trump if they did nothing other than read the semi-regular output from Zito and Bari Weiss to get a view that they'd never see from Australian corporate media. There are many others but those two would serve as an appropriate antidote what most Australian get through their media.

We see enormous numbers of people who have a negative opinion of Trump. But ask them which of his policies they detest and they'll look askant. Most Australians wouldn't have the faintest idea what Trump's policies are and why they are supposed to hate them.

I think the deep state will get their man. But as has been said before, if Trump goes down fighting, the deplorables won't stop looking for the next Trump and that next one will make Trump look like a pussy-cat.

In a previous thread, I compared Trump to Tiberius Gracchus. After Tiberius was destroyed, those who followed him learnt how to combat the state. Ultimately Roman democracy was eliminated
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 4:28:43 PM
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