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What Australians should understand about Donald J Trump : Comments

By Graham Young, published 30/1/2024

It appears that most Australians get their US news indirectly from CNN and The New York Times, barely filtered by the local media.

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Pathological liar for President … anyone ?

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Why not Donald J. Trump ? He can swear on the bible like he did before. His lies are true ! … at least, that’s what he says.

He lied when he insisted he won not only the presidential election against Hilary Clinton in 2016 but also the 2020 election against Joe Biden. Now he wants to be president again in 2024 because the twenty-second Amendment to the United States Constitution allows him to have two terms. Let’s see … that makes … one, two … sorry, I've lost count !

To tell the truth, that’s a physics problem that can only be solved by reference to Einstein’s theory of relativity regarding the space-time curve.

We have to bend reality a little to demonstrate to the satisfaction of the American Constitutionalists that what Trump continues to maintain to be the truth (that he, and not Biden, won the 2020 election) was, in fact, a lie.

But that's probably something for the US Supreme Court to decide - in Trump's favour, of course, (whatever that might be).

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Monday, 5 February 2024 6:18:17 AM
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"Pathological liar for President … anyone ?"

They've already got one....
http://twitter.com/mazemoore/status/1753588503383089489

Quick, look away...if you don't see it it didn't happen.

"He lied when he insisted he won not only the presidential election against Hilary Clinton in 2016"

Banjo outs himself as an election denier.

Banjo thinks the Federalist is suspect because Wikipedia tells him that's what he should think. Why? Well they disagreed with the Covid authorities and in Banjo-land disagreeing with the authorities means you're wrong. I seems to me that, given wht we know about the lies the authorities both in the US and here said about Covid, disputing them should be seen as a plus.

Apropos... http://www.theepochtimes.com/health/for-every-life-saved-mrna-vaccines-caused-nearly-14-times-more-deaths-study-5579794?src_src=Aomorningbriefnoe&src_cmp=Aomb-2024-02-04&cta_utm_source=Aomorningbriefnoecta&est=RZubMKPc13vi23xnAVVe2ZzF4EfT4P%2F4SulAgwVby0VV%2BgDJyVIQp3RE4suE

Personally, I don't reflexively check what the authorities claim about a source. I check the value of what the source said. If the Federalist article says wages went up more under Trump than his predecessor I only care if that true, not tht the authorities tell me to ignore it.

It seems Banjo is going to double-down on Trump wanting to become USA's Putin. He didn't do it the first time, but this he will because...reasons.

Meanwhile Trump's opponents work to make the USA a one-party state...
http://twitchy.com/dougp/2024/02/03/elon-musk-outlines-bidens-outrageous-not-to-mention-impeachable-reason-for-open-border-n2392511

Finally, Trump now leads Biden by 5% (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/presidency-peril-trump-widens-lead-biden-brutal-nbc/). Another 5% and he might make Democrat cheating near impossible....but they'll find a way.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 5 February 2024 10:41:25 AM
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post-truth mhaze,

Well I have taken the time to go back and try and sort through your rambling responses, something I am less and less inclined to do nowadays.

So it appears you are in a pink fit because I quoted the US federal debt figures from factcheck.org without explicitly saying they did not include intragovernmental debt. How utterly inane. Intergovernmental debt in the US is mainly Medicare and Social Security trust funds. It only goes up as more contributions arrive which are then held by Treasury. They do not increase rapidly when presidents go on spending sprees or lower taxes, that only happens to the public debt.

Note Graham did not mention the deficit, nor the debt, for good reason. Trump's figures were horrible.

So all that fuss over something so small yet you are the one telling me to stop with the inconsequential minutiae? Why do you RWNJs project so much?

Grow up.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 5 February 2024 11:58:36 AM
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Oh good. You understand where you went wrong. Well that's a start.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 5 February 2024 12:04:10 PM
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Dear mhaze,

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Thanks, I sifted through all that.

There sure is a lot of contradictory material out there on the internet on both Trump and Biden. I don’t think any of it is doing much good to either of them – and even less so to the American people generally, whether they vote or not.

To illustrate my point, here is just one contrary example to the ones you posted :

http://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-investigation-meme/

What I think would be preferable, would be a presidential candidate who could bring the American people together rather than separating them and, ideally, one who is not as old as the current front runners.

Interestingly, if Trump had not sought re-election in 2024, Biden probably would not have sought re-election either :

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/12/05/biden-running-trump-2024/

As it stands, both Trump and, consequently, Biden are candidates.

But I suspect that if Biden wins, he may not serve out the full term of the presidency and pass the relay on to his running mate, presumably Kamala Harris who will turn 60 years old just a few weeks before the election in November this year.

As for Trump, I doubt that he would want to cede the presidency to anybody.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 3:38:46 AM
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