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Ukraine: two ways of fighting in collision : Comments

By Keith Suter, published 9/3/2023

Over the centuries, Russia in its variety of political forms has relied on its overwhelming population to act like a steam roller.

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"We foreshadowed a war in two stages: Russian invasion and then Ukrainian resistance. We assumed an eventual Ukrainian victory against an exhausted Russia."

- You and the other nutjobs who thought getting this war started by poking the Russian bear was a good idea?

"The population is around 143 million (Ukraine is about 43 million)."
- 15 million Ukrainians have left, mostly women and children, so unless men can procreate with other men, then their birthrate isn't great either.

They're dragging old men, kids, young girls and handicapped people off the street and sending them to the front.
Ukraine is destroyed and Russia already occupies most of the revenue producing parts of the country.

- The rest of it I can't even be bothered with
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 9 March 2023 9:36:43 AM
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I see 3 outcomes here. #1/ Russia getting its ass whipped and returning tail between legs as a broken economy. #2/ At its weakest having to defend itself and its resources against a nuclear armed regional superpower, China. Who only need drive north and surround what they want to take. #3/ And Putin reviled as the most stupid leader (an enslaved) Russia has produced for decades.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 9 March 2023 10:35:53 AM
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Nobody poked the Russian bear. It invaded as a hostile and unprovoked invasion/territorial expansion.

That "poke" ("joke") just BS/Russian propaganda!

Russia was offered entry into the EU and had nothing whatsoever to fear from the west!

The bear wanted some honey and thought it would just stroll into the Ukraine and help itself to whatever it wanted. And found that raiding the hive, it was covered in a hive of stinging Ukrainian hornets.

No amount of BS propaganda will change the facts!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 9 March 2023 10:50:21 AM
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You're far too narrow minded on this issue Alan B. to even look at the facts.
It's a real shame you haven't done as much background research on this topic as you have on the thorium topic.
Older people stuck in this 'cold-war hangover' mentality are just as much responsible for the continuation of this mess as much as anyone else.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 9 March 2023 11:07:42 AM
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Dr. Suter is not a 'nutjob', nor is he a sage. He has an opinion - a more informed one than most of us - and he admits that the original scenario he and others came up with was wrong.

The idea that Ukraine is winning is still held by some wishful thinkers. But, Ukraine is in ruins; and even the excitable main stream media is getting bored with the whole thing.

I'm not a supporter of Russia, but Russia has a valid reason for doing what it is doing - by its lights, not those of posturing Westerners.

Upstart Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe, and getting the shite kicked out of it for no good reason is idiotic.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 9 March 2023 11:14:56 AM
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The facts are, Russia is getting its ass kicked. It's being kicked out of the Chimera and the only folk who will fight are convicted criminals. It's hurting itself as the world looks and finds alternatives for Russian oil and gas. Canadian tar fields! With more reserves than the Middle East combined!

There are other countries whose leaders are corrupt, but Nobody is going there with all their military might trying for regime change.

China plays the slow game and does have her eye on Russian oil and gas and will move when Russia is on her knees and as a broken economy. For probable pennies. I'm not self-delusional like AC or ttbn.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 9 March 2023 6:40:14 PM
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