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Ukraine: two ways of fighting in collision : Comments

By Keith Suter, published 9/3/2023

Over the centuries, Russia – in its variety of political forms – has relied on its overwhelming population to act like a steam roller.

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Fester,
The extent of Russian cooperation Ukraine needs to export grain via the Black Sea amounts to not blockading nor attacking the ships. It doesn't require active cooperation, and does not depend on who has Crimea.

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Indy,
I expect it would block the deal on national security grounds. Unlike Ukraine, Texas and Alabama aren't sovereign nations.
Perhaps a more relevant comparison would be the US base in Cuba?
Posted by Aidan, Saturday, 11 March 2023 12:10:48 AM
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Hi Aidan

"The extent of Russian cooperation Ukraine needs to export grain via the Black Sea amounts to not blockading nor attacking the ships."

How likely is that? Less likely if Russia does not have a naval base between Ukraine and her export markets I would suggest. Russia would be no more likely to honour an agreement with Ukraine than it would be to withdraw its invading army. According to Putin's brainwashing media Russia is already fighting Nato forces as most of the Ukrainian population has fled. The irony is that Putin is rapidly destroying his war machine, so making Russia more vulnerable, which would suggest that he thinks Hell freezing over more likely than Nato invading Russia.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 11 March 2023 9:49:00 AM
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Hey Fester,
Ukraine has other sea ports in Odessa and Mykolaiv, for now.

Losing Crimea is the price they pay for the US schemes to put a NATO base in Sevestopol and restrict Russia from the Black Sea and the Mediterranean.
Losing Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Donetsk and Luhansk is the price they pay for not keeping to the Minsk agreements.
If Ukraine wants to keep fighting it will lose Odesssa and Mykolaiv Oblasts including those sea ports and they will lose Kharkiv as well.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 11 March 2023 1:54:06 PM
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Forgot to add info about grain deal
- Which may end in a week.

http://www.dailysabah.com/business/economy/russia-says-extending-ukraine-grain-deal-complicated
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 11 March 2023 1:57:39 PM
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Keith,

"Ukraine and its western allies are bleeding Russia dry. Ukraine will ultimately win albeit at high cost."

Spot on.

Russia thought it could take over Ukraine in 3 weeks but instead got its arse kicked. The only reason this war is continuing, and Russia is losing 10 000s of men most of their tanks and many aircraft is that Putin will face a firing squad when everyone in Russia find our how badly Russia has lost.
Posted by shadowminister, Saturday, 11 March 2023 2:02:34 PM
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Hey Fester,
I saw a train with about a dozen new T-90M's heading to the front a day or so ago.
Where's all Ukraine's new tanks again?

Oh look - US plan against Russia.
http://twitter.com/PeImeniPusha/status/1634210460999249920
Great to see people in Georia protests (and Syria) dying for US policies
The Georgian French born President who attended US Columbia University supports the protests.
Can't allow the government of the people to support a law blocking foriegn agents, otherwise Samantha power and all the US 5th column goons wouldn't be able to cause civil unrest...

- Look Georgian riot police foolishly kicking the crap out of some poor woman pro-EU protester on camera.
http://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1633656375061389312
Seems it's all going perfectly to the evil US plan - Muhahahahaha
- Must be fun to screw with other countries like this hey...

Here's those tanks
http://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1633580339678392320

Here's some Ukrainian teenagers (probably dragged off the street under protest of their mums) retreating past a destroyed ukrainian convoy.
http://twitter.com/outsukenoshinyu/status/1633801994380124161

Looks like Ukraines running out of tanks.
http://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1633916530512764929/photo/1

Weren't they going to send them some tanks?
Don't forget some extra cash for Zelensky

Isn't twitter fun?
http://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1634341810087825408
http://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1633671776529178625/photo/1
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 11 March 2023 3:08:41 PM
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