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How do we curb the lust for power? : Comments

By Peter Bowden, published 29/4/2022

Vladimir Putin's excursion into the Ukraine is just the latest chapter in man's quest for domination over man.

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Fester,
So, you think because it isn't the Ukrainians' fault all their casualties are less dead ?
What I could believe is that if they capitulated for time being there'd be fewer casualties.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 30 April 2022 7:33:19 PM
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"What I could believe is that if they capitulated for time being there'd be fewer casualties."

That isn't certain. The killings in Bucha and elsewhere in Ukraine seem to have been authorised by the Russian army. The objective of the Russian invasion of Ukraine was to demilitarise and denazify the country. That could easily have entailed a genocide of the population. And there were at least four other countries that Russia felt were in need of denazification. If Ukraine had offered no resistance, what would have happened to them?

I agree that the war with all its death and destruction is tragic and horrific, but it may be a better option than leaving a psychopath and his war atrocity committing army unchallenged.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 30 April 2022 8:48:21 PM
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Fester,
You have your view & I have mine. Other than suggesting to you to watch European News & forums rather than what you see here, I'll leave it at that.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 30 April 2022 9:10:44 PM
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Fair enough Individual. We are both appalled by the conflict. What I am trying to see at present is the state of the Russian offensive. Impossible to get great accuracy I agree, but Russian controlled media does not report specifics of the Russian offensive and denies any civilian destruction or casualties other than because of Ukrainian Nazis using them for cover, so I don't see what insight I might gain from it. What I can determine is that the Russian army is not making great gains, and both sides seem to be taking losses. What I don't know is how strongly fortified and reinforced the Russian front is. Five hundred kilometres is a large distance to spread their army over, and the Ukrainians would also be thinly spread. I feel it comes down to the quality of intelligence/surveillance and the ability to conduct discreet attacks on opposing forces, especially artillery and mortar units. Anyway, time will tell.
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 1 May 2022 7:48:36 AM
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Fester, Indy. Nobody wins in a war. except perhaps the undertaker. The latter doing record business along with overflowing hospital wards!
To argue for a madman and his reasons, is also mad!

And has not and will not improve the lot of the average Russian but put them back to the dark ages economically and for generations! The Ukraine will receive lots of western recovery support!

Something the the further improverished Russians can thank the mad dictator for! And many will say, if it weren't broke, why try and fix it? He didn't like their politics!?

So we should go to war with every nation that choses a political system we don't approve of? Which seems to be the rational of Putin and his collection of insane support?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 1 May 2022 10:54:07 AM
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The Turkish navy is heading for the Black sea! No doubt to conduct a naval exercise? With the Russians obliging with their submarines and ships as the "pretend" targets?

Oh how jolly and such fun for the participating Admirals in their deeply bunkered war rooms?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 1 May 2022 11:03:42 AM
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