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Why we need to challenge Russia’s human shields narrative : Comments

By Nicola Perugini and Neve Gordon, published 5/4/2022

Vladimir Putin appealed directly to the personnel of the armed forces of Ukraine: 'Do not allow neo-Nazis and (Ukrainian right-wing radical nationalists) to use your children, wives and elders as human shields'.

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If you like gory stuff Fester maybe this video of a Russian tank firing on a dozen Ukrainian soldiers at point blank range will take your fancy.

http://twitter.com/timetravel077/status/1513781759271395332
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 5:04:08 PM
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AC: What does a document about the USSR inc. Ukraine of the '60s in the 20th century have to do with events of the past two decades in Ukraine i.e. the 21st century?

It's a bit of a 'Pilger' drawing back on old claims, perceptions and intelligence to avoid referring to current inconvenient truths?

According to Cohen in The Guardian 5 March '22, 'Far right and far left alike admired Putin. Now we’ve all turned against strongmen' complaining of both left and right (e.g. Fox News):

'The worst people in the west were pro-Putin. They excused his imperialist ideology and crimes against humanity and never paid a price for bootlicking a dictatorship. On the contrary, they took Britain out of the European Union and took over the Labour party. They won the presidencies of the United States and the Czech Republic and seized control of politics and the media in Hungary'
Posted by Andras Smith, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 7:36:53 PM
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Well Andrea, first you tried to make out I was full of it.
You tried to make out that the link I shared was fake news, simply because of the website it came from, did you not?

So I simply looked up and referenced relevant info from the cia.gov site to nullify your attempt to tar my info based upon the website it was published on.

The part you should pay attention to is this:

AERODYNAMIC continued into the 1980s as operation QRDYNAMIC, which was assigned to the CIA’s Political and Psychological Staff’s Soviet East Europe Covert Action Program. Prolog saw its operations expanded from New York and Munich to London, Paris, and Tokyo. QRDYNAMIC began linking up with operations financed by hedge fund tycoon George Soros, particularly the Helsinki Watch Group’s operatives in Kiev and Moscow. Distribution of underground material expanded from journals and pamphlets to audio cassette tapes, self-inking stamps with anti-Soviet messages, stickers, and T-shirts.

Soros.

https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/voices/keep-spirit-maidan-alive

The US conducted the Maiden in 2014, they overthrew the country.
Clinton, Biden, Nuland, Soros, McCain
They ran the op out of the US Embassy in Kiev.
- Which is where the DNC server Trump was looking for was relocated to.

http://youtu.be/bpIoBUDuL3U

I support Russia - by default.
Because I don't support the west overthrowing countries, and I don't support the west making war on nuclear armed members of the UN security council.

End of Story.

But your woke - guardian article is a load of crap anyway.
Cohen ends by saying Putin is waging economic war on the West.
If you believe that then you'd believe any form of Western propaganda parading itself as news.

It's the West which wages economic war on countries with sanctions.
Exactly what planet do all you nut-crackers actually live on?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 15 April 2022 5:46:12 AM
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Goodness me AC,

Shame to see your psychopathic killer mate Vlad's flagship at the bottom of the Black Sea. How did that happen? A fire started by a dodgy Iphone charger perhaps? And no lives lost either. What a miracle.

At least Vlad's hit squads are still active in Ukraine, randomly killing and maiming citizens and foreign press. And good to see the Russian army focusing on military targets such as hospitals, schools, housing estates, train stations and sports stadiums.

Autocratic countries always have elaborate conspiracy theories pointing the blame for all their failures at others. What the conspiracy theories can never explain is why the nations become so peaceful, prosperous and egalitarian when they adopt democracy.

For your viewing pleasure AC, here is a vid of some depraved Russian pigs shooting a Z tank full of their comrades. Hasta la vista baby!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/ukraine/video-2661855/Video-Russian-tanks-appear-blow-comrades-earlier-war.html
Posted by Fester, Friday, 15 April 2022 8:09:42 AM
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Yes it's kinda sad, it was a pretty ship, but its just a chunk of steel. War machines are only made for killing anyway.
Ukraines lost a quarter of it's land mass and Mariupol about to fall.

You know all this started from people not accepting realities.

The reality is the US overthrew the country in 2014
But it was a bit of a botched coup, because none of the Russian speaking citizens in the east and in Crimea went along with it.
So they, who did not support the Banderites in Kiev, voted to separate from the country, and did so completely in line with UN right to self determination.

But the die-hard Ukrainian nationalists emboldened by the backing of the US, just couldn't cop it.
They spent the last 8 years indiscriminately killing the separatists, and well here we are.

Your rhetoric is a waste of time, I've seen what the US does mate.
I bet they were dragging rotting corpses out from under the rubble of flattened buildings in Raqqa for months.
Not forgetting the US more-or-less supported Islamic State when they were fighting Assad.

Media's become so full of crap with forced narratives
Supporting Ukraine is like the next bullcrap feelgood thing
Like supporting Black Lives Matters or Gay Marriage.

You can say whatever you want, it won't change anything with me.
I don't support the West overthrowing other countries, and I don't support making war on nuclear armed permanent members of the UN security council.
END OF STORY.

Our country charges 44 cents a litre fuel excise
Where the total price of fuel is still only AUD 70c a litre in Russia.
We're all paying for this stupid war.

But there's always some paid tosser telling us to have 2 minutes showers n car pool in order to 'Get Putin', Lol
http://youtu.be/MB-eYj3Eh2M
- That's the western monetery system trying to impose itself upon the whole planet.
Unelected beaurecrats from Brussels trying to control my life.
They are the dictators that already rule me by foreign treaty, not Russia or China.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 15 April 2022 11:59:33 AM
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This is what you all support.

http://www.rferl.org/a/banderite-rebrand-ukrainian-police-declare-admiration-for-nazi-collaborators-to-make-a-point/29764110.html
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 15 April 2022 12:24:03 PM
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